It's really annoying how whenever Lethality is good for AD Assassins

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Ranged champions just abuse the hell out of it and then get it nerfed like always.

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Salron6 votes

It's not even a lethality issue Duskblade is just fucking retarded on anything and anyone

Phife2 votes

No, its ranged ADC's in particular.

All they gotta do is walk into a brush and fire a shot at you from 700 units away and chunk you. But an assassin has to get in ur face to do it.

Salron2 votes

I would agree if the item wasn't also broken on assassins atm too

Phife1 votes

Broken is a little bit of an exaggeration, it does about 40 more damage late game than it should.

Karn Bishop3 votes

Honestly the main problem is riot needs to put a leash onto the adc or shoot their knee with an arrow yet refuse to do it or even comment on it despite how prevalent the problem has been for several patches.

Problem one: lethality is always better on ranged, solution have diminishing returns for ranged champions, the more range you have the less lethality benefits you.

Problem two: ADC have access to far too many defensive tools that are also super offensive, and the solution here is to tweak deaths dance with a ranged penalty, make some small adjustments for phantom dancer, tweak GA health scalings or lower the damage it provides.

problem three: Crit needs a look at in general as it was designed for a game that no longer exists yet still exists without changes to its interaction with lifesteal or giving it a trade off of some sort.

WoonStruck1 votes

Surprisingly accurate.

However, keep in mind that these changes would not be simple, as the rest of the game would have to be tuned around them as well.

I do feel like it would be a better direction for the game, but Riot will never put in that effort.

Karn Bishop1 votes

Yup im aware that these changes are pretty code heavy however a few of them could be done now such as the tweaks to DD, GA, i just wish they would talk about it or at least go hey we think it is a problem or nope we think its fine for adc to be this powerful.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

Riot games and their we want lethality on ranged champions crusade.

Apocalypsic1 votes

Lethality is fine, duskblade in specific is not.

Although the problem lies that ranged assassins do exist and they benefit very well from the items... but so does everyone else.

Honestly ready for Riot to just say fuck it to lethality and bring back flat armor penetration. Like you didn't get all these powerful extra effects and other silly shit like shields and slows with massive tacked on damage and whatnaught, you had youmuus which gave you the movement speed and pretty much everything else dedicated to armor pen just gave you the raw stats you paid for and maybe some CDR here and there.

Big Lincoln1 votes

ez fix nerf ranged scrubbos

Executioner1 votes

I've seen plenty of range champions take it, have yet to see them win a game. Saw ezeral build lethality, most underwhelming thing i've seen. Plus I really on saw him build it today. Other than them, no other ranged champion I've seen has build it. Have yet to see a graves or quin be picked or build it.

What I will say, melee have done it and absolutely ruined my dreams. Looking at you Zed

Also it's really only duskblade.

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

Jhin is actually good with it. Ezreal is the special case, where he will always be better with Muramana, triforce bork, using a combination of spells and auto's

Executioner1 votes

jhin is fine with lethality, but I like the crit build more.

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

Note i said with it, not on a lethality build. http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Jhin pros are building a crit jhin with duskblade mixed in.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Lethality is bad on Ezreal

Executioner1 votes

That's fine, just on ezeral its questionable. Jhin used to run it, because of his large amount of ad. Varus, and miss fortune were another ones that could run it fine. However on ezreal? Just hurts my brain thinking about it.

Though duskblade now, is fucking hitting like a truck loaded with fuck you in it.

LankPants1 votes

I could see Duskblade in its current state working. It's another onhit you could add to his Q, as long as you try to duck into FoW between Qs it's an extra bit of poke you can add. It certainly wouldn't be the worst thing ever.

Geshultz1 votes

I mean its always used by ranged attack damage casters because assassin items are designed to be used by attack damage casters. Meaning whenever a new lethality item is designed for assassins. It is guaranteed to be used by anyone with a similar class to them.

Shablagoo1 votes

Dont get why they dont just make duskblade melee only its for ad melee assassin so it shouldnt be used on ppl like graves,quinn, jihn, mf, ive even seen lucian build it

deadlychuck1 votes

It'd because riot half assed an "assassin" stat, instead making it a single secondary stat with a wide breadth of influence, rather than a narrow specific stat like crit.

They could just make lethality apply to spells, and you'd basically never see the abuse from marksmen, but you'd still likely see it from fighters, because simply a secondary stat, when you've got so many classes stacked into the same core stat (AD) is going to be abused by many of them.

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