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so exactly why the hell does meta breaking exist?

Popstar Ahri··3 votes·1,201 views

"People just want to try new things and to see if its broken or not"

well that shit shouldnt even exist in the first place anyway, no one wants to know or even want graves jungle top, fizz tank and jg to exist, while people should only play champs that are designed to a role they are limited to be used at.

but whats so disgusting and unbareable that I have to deal with every single fucking game are meta breakers, doing stupid things like jhin mid feeding 1/11, sona mid feeding 1/20, tf support, lee support, a tristana top which we have NO front line in team fights, and this is so infuriating to deal with while it makes the game 2x harder.

and this is all happening in ranked, getting real sick and tired of it, as well as normals losing 90% of my games because of stupid shit like this.

And I have already seen enough of it, with over at least under 4 k normal games spent, while at least under 1k of ranked games experiencing all of this stuff

can we do something about this? this is just as bad as int feeding along with trolling, and im so pissed off

17 Comments

Anomander9 votes

Half of the things considered meta now were breaking the meta 1-2 seasons ago. Mage mid was considered breaking the meta in season 1 and early season 2.

The meta is made by breaking it. If you don't like meta breaking go play with a 5 man premade.

Mr Broken Wings3 votes

I remember the days when people reported me for playing lulu toplane and midlane because she was hilariously overpowered back in the day BEFORE riot nerfed her 20 times and she still is a viable pick. Or when leblanc was considered trash and out of the meta because she " fall off" even with her silence. Yeah, we all should play after the meta that currently exists, I mean thinking for ourselfs is anyway stupid.

Eyesack3 votes

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"People just want to try new things and to see if its broken or not"

well that shit shouldnt even exist in the first place anyway, no one wants to know or even want graves jungle top, fizz tank and jg to exist, while people should only play champs that are designed to a role they are limited to be used at.

but whats so disgusting and unbareable that I have to deal with every single fucking game are meta breakers, doing stupid things like jhin mid feeding 1/11, sona mid feeding 1/20, tf support, lee support, a tristana top which we have NO front line in team fights, and this is so infuriating to deal with while it makes the game 2x harder.

and this is all happening in ranked, getting real sick and tired of it, as well as normals losing 90% of my games because of stupid shit like this.

And I have already seen enough of it, with over at least under 4 k normal games spent, while at least under 1k of ranked games experiencing all of this stuff

can we do something about this? this is just as bad as int feeding along with trolling, and im so pissed off

this guy is extra retarded.

Having played league 6 years ago, I'm disgusted people ONLY play 'standard lanes' in ranked.

This game is about 5 champions vs 5 champions trying to kill the other team's nexus, there are no rules.

trash sion2 votes

What makes me most upset, even more than getting flamed for picking an offmeta champ, is when I get flamed for picking an offmeta position.

I had a Vayne flaming me as Blitzcrank, so I just decided to support midlane. Team thought I was trolling, but we ended up winning with our mid and top going like 13/0 or something like that.

Nothing says I can't take my duo partner top with me, have two junglers, roam between all lanes as a support, or take a tank and DPS mage botlane.

Levu2 votes

This is honestly how I feel this game needs to be played and is the way Riot should be SUPPORTING it being played.

The "META" bullshit kills the game. ADC/Support should not exist in low elo, if anything there should just be 2 junglers every game that start at red/blue buff respectively...

I really feel like the Meta is just an excuse for people to blame others for themselves losing and it makes the game toxic at this point.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Meta breaking can be effective when done correctly.

For example, if the enemy team has multiple AD assassins, you may be better of picking Urgot than a meta ADC like Lucian or Jhin.

In addition, non-meta champions who counter meta picks can often be chosen for that reason, becoming meta themselves.

Examples include:

  • Trundle top countering the meta Shyvana and Mundo top in early Season 4
  • Rammus top being picked to counter teams with multiple marksmen/autoattackers
  • Morgana support being picked in Season 3 or 4-ish (I forget which) to counter all-in tank supports.
  • Urgot mid or ADC being picked against teams with multiple tanks (for his armor reduction) or assassins (for his durability and ability to build defensive items).

There are many more examples, but those are a few extremely prominent ones.

R31W1NG1 votes

What you just defined were all in meta decisions. Off-meta are things which aren't considered acceptable/appropriate champ picks for a lane. Properly counter picking the enemy is always meta.

trash sion2 votes

That's the thing. All the picks he listed are meta now... but they weren't in previous seasons. Trundle and Rammus were exclusively junglers, Morgana was a Mid, and Urgot... who knows. All of these picks seem standard, but they were offmeta picks originally.

BladeSteel1 votes

Urgot was top in season 1.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

They are meta "now", but they weren't when they were originally picked.

Before they were adopted to counter the meta, picking those champions in those roles was meta breaking. That is not where those champions were commonly played in the meta until someone used them to counter whatever the current meta was, leading them to become meta picks themselves.

VvVVvV1 votes

I was just talking to someone about this.

i had to suffer through a game with a teemo jungler....needless to say it was the most unfun experience i ever had on this game........it was literally my 2nd game of the day and i didnt play another game afterwards because my head hurt so much.

Ganks were almost nonexistent. He died 2 times to Red Buff before he finally got it and that was with help.

And the 1 time he did try to gank bot about 15 minutes in.....he got pounced on and had to run away before he even got to the lane. (he didnt make it)

Oh and did i forget to mention the over 21 deaths.

Now i know there are people out there who defend playing champs in odd roles...........but seriously...who out there can legitimately defend a teemo jungle?

This is why Riot needs to limit certain champs to disable them from even buying a jungler item.

Teemo, Ashe, Heimer......gtfo the jungle!!!!!!

Anomander2 votes

I had a jungle teemo who went like 16/3.

One game doesn't mean anything. Do I think teemo should jungle? HELL NO. But that has more to do with my own opinion. If someone wants to play it I will do my best to support them and make it work.

cuddlykitten42 votes

That has nothing to do with the fact that he took Teemo jungle. It's because he did badly with Teemo in the jungle. Until the day you never see anything on meta do badly again is the day you can blame the champ and the role. I've seen many a jungle Teemo do extremely well. In fact, the whole reason Riot changed the jungle in the first place was to open it up as a role to a much wider range of champs. Riot themselves suggested Jungle Graves FYI.

VvVVvV1 votes

Do you remember Rusty Blitzcrank? Proof enough not everything riot suggests is best for business.

But dont get me wrong...i never said breaking metais bad....just said there are certain champs who have no buisness in certain roles. Hell, ill mid with a Volibear and wreck the lane. But u will never see me go as far as trying to jungle teemo, or heimer.

Levu2 votes

Just because YOU can't do it doesn't mean other people can't.

This game is not about YOU.

VvVVvV1 votes

This is super late but i dont come on here much anymore but who said i cant do it or that the game was about me? Seems like you like putting words in peoples mouth. Anyone can play any champ in any role or lane....that doesnt mean its whats best for the TEAM. That is the main reason why I say i wouldnt do it. Had you known that you wouldnt of made your comment "This game is not about YOU."

I can play heimer jungle all day if i wanted to, anyone can play hiemer jungle if they wanted to. Doesnt mean its whats best for TEAM.

Hell most people go into a game knowing %100 who they are going to play and no matter what the other team picks or who your team picks...unless that champ gets banned they still use them even if its not what is best for the TEAM. So it is those people who make the game about THEM and not the TEAM.

Example would be a person showing they want to jungle with Teemo. Other team already has 3 tanks locked in. Your team has a tank or bruiser top and your get a squish utility support and the Teemo still locks in Teemo. So now your team goes into the game already out tanked a ton and have to pray your top build tank and doesnt go for damage to even stand a chance in the team fights.

So yeah anyone can do it but that doesnt mean its best thing for team.

Levu1 votes

Funny thing I been playing a lot of Teemo jungle recently

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2384892902/219506606?tab=builds

Zed couldn't stay connected more than 2 minutes at a time, which ended up losing us the game 4v5. Nothing to say about Sion.

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