holy god, never in my life had I been so infuriated with all these lee sin picks every game

Popstar Ahri·Jan 18, 2016·134 votes·6,801 views

its getting a real pain in the ass

seeing

him

EVERY

GAME

can we honestly do something about lee sin??

202 Comments

Solis DeusJan 19, 201620 votes

Funny that. I checked and you only had Lee Sin in 3 of your last 9 games, while at the same time you had Lissandra in 3 consecutive games and Thresh picked 4 times in 3 games. Yep, Lee Sin picks every game.

crustallos duesJan 19, 20166 votes

savage. #rekt

KaisadiIIaJan 19, 20163 votes

RITO NERF LISSANDRA ~~AGAIN~~. F*CKING SICK OF LISSANDRAS EVERY FEW GAMES. SHE HAS A DASH, DAMAGE, SLOW, SNARE, STUN, INVULNERABILITY, AOE SLOW (YES, OTHER ONE), SELF-HEALING, MANA SUSTAIN PASSIVE, SUSTAINED DAMAGE WITH A DECENT BURST. THAT CHAMPION IS RIDICULOUS /s

4th3t0sJan 19, 201617 votes

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can we honestly do something about lee sin??

Poppy

HaloJan 19, 20164 votes

LeeSin OH I SEE YOU BLOCKED MY Q JUMP, LET ME JUST W INSTEAD. (or maybe flash)

BluePolarizerJan 19, 201617 votes

Man, a champ in every game that's god tier in win rate?

I have never seen such a thing! Ahri

UB3R 1337 H4XJan 19, 20167 votes

Lee has an ass winrate... mind you I think that he can still get a bit of a nerf and be ok but still.

BluePolarizerJan 19, 20167 votes

what I meant was that the OP mains Ahri and is whining about an OP champ in every game LOL

CarameI FrappeJan 19, 20165 votes

I main Ahri and weirdly enough, she's my only solution in countering Zed Talon Katarina . Granted, her ult is basically three flashes that deals damage- but I am thankful for it since it spares me from needing to rush item 3157 .

But yeah even I know she's quite OP where I even had a Zed main say i'm annoying to lane against lol.

KaisadiIIaJan 19, 20162 votes

I don't think she's OP. Although she has a really unnecessary Q movement speed boost that makes laning against her more annoying than it should in certain match-ups.

Shiyo KozukiJan 19, 20161 votes

Zed hard counters ahri.

CarameI FrappeJan 19, 20161 votes

He may counter her, but a good Ahri can work around this. I enjoy fighting Zeds because they usually go all in after they hit lvl 6. But every time they try to get near me I simply walk back while casting Q in the direction they're going. Even if their ult lands, I save my ult to dash away and ensure to waste em after.

Also roaming helps big time because Zed is not able to catch a fleeing Ahri if she hasn't used her ult up. Also harassing the Zed and avoiding most of his shurikens makes the Zed more intimidated to engage you.

In short, mind games son. Make the Zed think twice before trying to belittle a skilled Ahri and gank other lanes to overpower the Zed if he hasn't gotten fed himself.

ApocalypsicJan 20, 20164 votes

The whole deal between Zed and Ahri is really just a skill match up. It can go either way.

DrProfVibeCheckJan 19, 201615 votes

You may see Lee every game, but he doesn't see you

AyRe CoNteMpTJan 18, 201613 votes

since his release he has a 30% pickrate. nothing changed ever. i ban him whenever im firstpick.

Dominick DestineJan 18, 20167 votes

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since his release he has a 30% pickrate. nothing changed ever. i ban him whenever im firstpick.

Actually Lee was pure garbage when he was released.

Similar to Yorick; He had to get multiple sizeable buffs before he was finally playable. Unfortunately the buffs left him wildly overpowered and he has never been nerfed since.

Let me qualify that statement; Never nerfed in a meaningful way (Ex: Look at the utter destruction Soraka is going through, the fairly harsh nerfs Tahm Kench has received/is going to receive next patch and the actual sensible nerfs Rengar is getting; SURE WISH LEE WOULD GET BALANCED)

YumaS2AstralJan 18, 20168 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GdIfMEAN,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-01-18T23:11:35.317+0000)

Actually Lee was pure garbage when he was released.

Similar to Yorick; He had to get multiple sizeable buffs before he was finally playable. Unfortunately the buffs left him wildly overpowered and he has never been nerfed since.

Let me qualify that statement; Never nerfed in a meaningful way (Ex: Look at the utter destruction Soraka is going through, the fairly harsh nerfs Tahm Kench has received/is going to receive next patch and the actual sensible nerfs Rengar is getting; SURE WISH LEE WOULD GET BALANCED)

he was actually nerfed, though

His attack speed reduction got removed. If I am not mistaken, his W has been nerfed too.

That said, it's a shame how Riot lets him be the king of jungle for years. Nerfs are nerfs, but the nerfs that Lee received didn't really solved his main problem.

PhantomGGJan 18, 201610 votes

im sorry the season of no talent cinderhulk junglers is over.

BetaDude40Jan 18, 201615 votes

Good job trolling

PhantomGGJan 18, 20164 votes

50 people were no talent cinderhulk junglers who "mained" sejuani

IlliadJan 18, 20166 votes

What is wrong with it? It is the only way to get max size zac! Zac Zac Zac [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Spicy RiceJan 18, 201626 votes

Ill never forget the day when i saw a max sized zac and max sized cho gath autoattacking each other to death mid lane while a max size sion quietly fapped on the sidelines

Starfish HJan 19, 201618 votes

Sion THIS IS WHAT PASSES grunts FOR WARRRRRR

IlliadJan 18, 20168 votes

Tell me your solution [zombie-brand-mindblown]

TheI3igDaddyJan 18, 201667 votes

-remove his stupid ward hopping gimmick that's only shared by Real Weapon and Pentarina -lower Q projectile speed -turn his ult into more of a utility spell instead of being a goddamn nuke -nerf his base MS

Pick any, hopefully all.

SairentosutokaJan 18, 20167 votes

considering how he isn't good to begin with that wouldn't be a good idea.

KnoyleJan 19, 201621 votes

Next you're going to tell us Fizz almost no burst.

50ShadesOfGenderJan 19, 201613 votes

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ÑapoleoniJan 19, 20166 votes

Don't know why this is getting down voted. I agree with almost everything that Fizz is annoying, but if he isn't doing good, there really is no point in nerfing him.

Sir YamazukiJan 19, 20166 votes

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Don't know why this is getting down voted. I agree with almost everything that Fizz is annoying, but if he isn't doing good, there really is no point in nerfing him.

That's Lee's win rate and not Fizz's, in plat+ Fizz is doing much better than Lee is.

IlliadJan 18, 201613 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Im convinced lets get it done

50ShadesOfGenderJan 19, 20166 votes

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5050BSJan 19, 20163 votes

You are right Thresh is an OP support. But he cant penta very easy.

Riot has about 15 toxic champs that just need to be removed.

rtbf223219960Jan 19, 20164 votes

uhh... Urgot .... uhhh.... Twitch .... Cassiopeia ... Singed .... KogMaw .... .... Elise ... Teemo ... UHHH thats not 15.... I must be missing something. Oh wait... Vayne , Riven , Veigar , Zed , Ekko , LeeSin , and Katarina .

MagicDragon300Jan 19, 20161 votes

You're one short

Maximum MordeJan 19, 20165 votes

Was that a short joke?

ChoaruJan 19, 20163 votes

Shaco but he is my main tho

Emperor TimeJan 19, 20168 votes

Wait what?!?! i haven't seen a lee sin in a while...

Spaceman5pffJan 19, 20163 votes

same

Dominick DestineJan 18, 20167 votes

He's overpowered.

Until he stops being overpowered (I.e. Riot balances him), he will continue to be very popular.

50ShadesOfGenderJan 19, 20165 votes

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IAMS4T4NJan 19, 20169 votes

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TIL: 45.8% win rate = OP

he has a low win rate because new players watch an insec video, think they can make big plays, and first time him in a ranked game and do awful with him

not even joking

idc about lee tbh, the only thing that annoys me is his base ms. just saying that win rate isnt everything. leblanc had like a 46% win rate when everyone thought she was broken. doesnt mean she wasnt.

HaloJan 19, 20163 votes

I always ban that guy, not becasue i hate playing vs him or becasue he is op. I dont want him in MY TEAM. 90% of lee mains can not play him and usually try to carry early but cant adapt to lategame.

Or they just suck and cant play him at all but want in on that HIGH SKILL CHAMPION.

Restless SlumberJan 19, 20163 votes

But playing against him is freelo. And I never let someone on my team pick him (cuz I'm jungle). Like seriously, my Elise vs Lee Sin win rate is probably 90%.

Nameless VoiceJan 19, 20163 votes

Sounds like... Every season since his release, apart from a short gap during the Cinderhulk meta.

Vistha KaiJan 19, 20163 votes

Riot: Sigh... fine. *Lee Sin gets a buff* Riot: We know this is exactly what you wanted.

M0b1usJan 19, 20162 votes

Sorry, Sejuani already had her time in the jungle spotlight. Here at Riot we like to make sure everyone gets some time in the spotlight. Sejuani had hers, now it is time for LeeSin to have the spotlight.

A Rioter basically said this when asked about helping out Sejuani . So nothing is going to change probably.

SevixysJan 19, 20162 votes

Lee has been in the spotlight since.. his release? He is a jack-of-all-trades who does everything well and never drops out of favor. Needlessly overloaded kit, tons of damage and tankiness of a goddamn hecarim..

M0b1usJan 19, 20163 votes

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Lee has been in the spotlight since.. his release? He is a jack-of-all-trades who does everything well and never drops out of favor. Needlessly overloaded kit, tons of damage and tankiness of a goddamn hecarim..

Well, when he was released, he was famous for being rather weak and EXTREMELY buggy. It took a while for the bugs to be worked out, but they also gave him a few buffs as well during this time. When the bugs finally were mostly dealt with, the buffs he got made him extremely powerful. This is about the time where the level 2 gank from red became a really popular start. Ever since then he has been a solid pick. Sometimes he wasn't picked as much if tanks were more valued, but even then he was still a strong choice.