fizz is litearly one of the worst champs to be created

Popstar Ahri·Apr 18, 2016·167 votes·10,708 views

litearlly breaks the game

as long as I could remember I started league at late season 3 so all I could remember throughout the season till now is

-Back then fizz used to one shot adc's with just his Q when building lich bane

-Bruiser Fizz Top starts being abused at top lane after getting "nerfed/compensation", build try force, bork and full tank becoming unstoppable

-Jungle fizz breaks the game , with sated devourer along with building tank

-Tank fizz is a thing AGAIN except without trinity force/bork, but just completely full tank and goes top

-And till this day Fizz becomes one of the strong mid laner assassins today

Rework where? Im so sick and tired of dealing him through my whole years playing league of legends becase of him, such a toxic kit.

121 Comments

Morgy MorgyApr 19, 201660 votes

fizz mains are walking cancer cells how can they actually enjoy playing this faceroll as all living fuck champion?

Pentarina OnlyApr 19, 201615 votes

Thank you! Fizz is literally cancer.

ArakadiaApr 19, 201615 votes

Fizz = http://images.medicinenet.com/images/slideshow/cancer-101-s1-what-is-cancer-cell.jpg

Fisherman FízzApr 19, 201634 votes

Fizz <3

Pentarina OnlyApr 19, 201626 votes

SATANIST.

VscaraApr 19, 20162 votes

Teemo <3

Photos of GhostsApr 19, 201610 votes

Says Pentarina, the champ that I got rank 4 on in 8 games because it was easy as fueh to ks.

Pentarina OnlyApr 19, 20162 votes

Katarina tends to do well in bronze.

MelledoneusApr 20, 20162 votes

And with any team that isn't a sack of potators.

ZacsterApr 19, 20169 votes

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fizz mains are walking cancer cells how can they actually enjoy playing this faceroll as all living fuck champion?

People play yi.

DracocrashApr 19, 20163 votes

please stop comparing diseases like cancer too people who play a certain champ

Cryo00Apr 19, 201646 votes

#DeleteFizz2016 #MakeLeagueOfLegendsGreatAgain.

Seriously though, rework his E, remove that missing health% DOT on his W and remove the aa damage reduction on his passive. (The things that infuriate me when playing against a F***).

General Esdeath Apr 19, 20165 votes

His E is fine, it's either a high source of damage or an escape. Look at Zed, his shadow is either an escape or a means of harass. And the DoT on his W isn't that bad unless you're really low, in which case ignite would kill you. The AA reduction is less than 15 at max level.

Cryo00Apr 19, 201613 votes

I'm pretty sure people give him more shit than he deserves but still, having a mini-Zhonya's on a 4 second cd is really frustrating to play against. The W dot does hurt even if you're at half health, and that aa damage reduction will be quite annoying to auto-attack based champions, especially those that prefer speed over damage. I play mages so I don't care about that. His kit is quite over-loaded though.

EDIT: I will admit though, he does require some skill to play properly, otherwsie he gets wrecked during laning.

Pentarina OnlyApr 18, 201638 votes

A fizz hate thread, have my upvote!

#DeleteFizz

IAMS4T4NApr 19, 201631 votes

its kinda like ezreal and his q hes ruined so many items its ridiculous, just rework/gut the damn thing

charcharmunroApr 19, 201614 votes

I imagine Fizz'll be one of the big projects for the Assassin rework. Like... Top-priority, I hope.

VexingRavenNov 18, 20161 votes

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I imagine Fizz'll be one of the big projects for the Assassin rework. Like... Top-priority, I hope.

Preseason 7 calling... Nope! Enjoy your Shaco nerfs, we're not touching good old Fizz.

TheLastBaron88Apr 19, 201611 votes

This accurately summarizes exactly why even Riot themselves should have noticed what a terrible design this kit is. Well done OP.

Vanic998Apr 19, 20167 votes

Fizz is balanced.

ChaddyFantomeApr 19, 201626 votes

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Fizz is balanced.

Fizz is more unbalanced than he is when using his E.

AckelopeApr 19, 201617 votes

I mean, it depends on the kind of balance you're talking about. The fact that he can stand on his trident in mid air for a second or two is decently impressive, he's pretty balanced in that way. As far as game balance goes, he's always been an issue... Regardless, that joke is kinda old, and doesn't even make much sense.

ChaddyFantomeApr 19, 201616 votes

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I mean, it depends on the kind of balance you're talking about. The fact that he can stand on his trident in mid air for a second or two is decently impressive, he's pretty balanced in that way. As far as game balance goes, he's always been an issue... Regardless, that joke is kinda old, and doesn't even make much sense.

I think you missed the joke.

Lemme rephrase it

Why does Fizz fall of his Staff at the end of his E animation? Because he is utterly unbalanced.

AckelopeApr 19, 201614 votes

I didn't miss the joke, I've heard it many, many times before. I think it's a dumb joke, because he doesn't fall off, he jumps off and manages to properly twist around and land, to boot. If anything his E demonstrates his personal physical balance. It's an easy joke to understand, just not an accurate one.

OelykApr 19, 20165 votes

he's kinda like ezreal and ekko. overloaded kits with little or no way to balance them without significantly nerfing all aspects of them.

9kPluzZApr 19, 20162 votes

How in hell is fizz overloaded? Passive: can move through units Q:targeted gapcloser W:AA buff E: Leap attack, basicly khaz jump but invulnerable R: Skillshot that cc's Overloaded:???

F03Apr 19, 20165 votes

Why am I not surprised an ahri main is complaining about wanting assassin's nerfed.

It's obvious what your agenda is

Popstar AhriApr 19, 20162 votes

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Why am I not surprised an ahri main is complaining about wanting assassin's nerfed.

It's obvious what your agenda is

and using my name to an advantage to showing ur blinded hatred, salt towards Ahri mains when I havent played her for like 1-2 years so far?

I mean, I have never even said she was "balanced" so why are u trying to prove to me that I think shes balanced and everything else is broken? when I already knew she was broken? WHile I have played MULTIPLE mid laners against fizz?? So I have the right and experience with 321 mastery scores

ur blind hatred for ahri mains taking ur salt on no matter who it is as long as it says "Ahri" or mentions "Ahri" whcih takes it to the point they become stereotypes,is sickening from what I have seen over the years you have been posting, grow up?....

http://i.imgur.com/FYeGU4f.png

so how EXACTLY, do you know my agenda when I RARELY play her, and my most played are zed, viktor and yasuo?? while I have been earning amstery scores??

oh yeah and im not surprised that ur biased as well trying to defend your fizz since I do see u play him before, and I even said in my threads I wanted ahri to get nerfed so I could play her again, if you hate her that much, and hold a grudge against me because of having an "Ahri" or an "Ahri" fanboy then you need to know its a fucking game and you should grow up

Go0bEr L1TtLeApr 19, 20162 votes

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and using my name to an advantage to showing ur blinded hatred, salt towards Ahri mains when I havent played her for like 1-2 years so far?

I mean, I have never even said she was "balanced" so why are u trying to prove to me that I think shes balanced and everything else is broken? when I already knew she was broken? WHile I have played MULTIPLE mid laners against fizz?? So I have the right and experience with 321 mastery scores

ur blind hatred for ahri mains taking ur salt on no matter who it is as long as it says "Ahri" or mentions "Ahri" whcih takes it to the point they become stereotypes,is sickening from what I have seen over the years you have been posting, grow up?....

http://i.imgur.com/FYeGU4f.png

so how EXACTLY, do you know my agenda when I RARELY play her, and my most played are zed, viktor and yasuo?? while I have been earning amstery scores??

oh yeah and im not surprised that ur biased as well trying to defend your fizz since I do see u play him before, and I even said in my threads I wanted ahri to get nerfed so I could play her again, if you hate her that much, and hold a grudge against me because of having an "Ahri" or an "Ahri" fanboy then you need to know its a fucking game and you should grow up

Ahri is one of the most reliable counters to fizz, due to the fact that she can charm after/before his e, and negate most of the combo, while she bursts him down (E, W, Q, R, R, etc.). His point was that nerfing assassins indirectly nerfs mages like ahri that have tons of mobility and can easily juke out keep skill shots (fizz ult) if timed properly. His post never referenced any hatred towards ahri, he just said that "Why am I not surprised an ahri main is complaining about wanting assassin's nerfed. It's obvious what your agenda is"

Technically speaking, there was nothing at all in the post stating that he had any hatred towards ahri. You overreacted to his post and personally, that means that you should grow up and learn to stop jumping to conclusions.

zmmbyApr 19, 20165 votes

I have no problem against Fizz mid, its more the new Fizz tank that these kids are building.

Basically every champ can go sunfire + iceborn and make a impact.

Baby GhoulApr 19, 20164 votes

Fizz Hi I'm going to lock this pick in top even though my team is lacking lockdown and AD.

-Every FoTM nerd in ranked right now

Riot fix this mess because we're all losers in this situation.

WimbledofyApr 19, 20164 votes

A problem with fizz is that even though you actually can outplay his combo since half of it is avoidable (all of it is if you have flash or a dash up), he can immediately (not literally immediately) use his combo again. If you are trying to focus him you might chunk his health pretty quick but as soon as he goes on his troll poll your character will stop if you are aaing him and he gets to re-position however he wants.

ArakadiaApr 19, 20162 votes

And many champions have no mobility. Not to forget either that as someone like Swain or Brand he can just E over their CC, and have it up in a short time soon enough.

MunchCrunchLunchApr 19, 20163 votes

#fuckfizz

MrBuffingtonApr 19, 20163 votes

I mean, Fizz was deliberately made to be annoying. They made him incredibly slippery on purpose, so you'd have a cathartic moment when you kill him. So in that respect, Riot succeeded (◕‿◕✿)

SpecterVonBarenApr 19, 20163 votes

No, this...

Azir

Literally breaks the game.

ZoeeeeApr 19, 20163 votes

Has riot ever deleted a champion from the game?

The LovelessApr 19, 20162 votes

I never thought triforce/Bork fizz was unkillable nor unbeatable. Even now, most fizz players rush the IBG instead of health items, so they can still be killed by mages and dirk/pen items.

NekusenApr 19, 20162 votes

People that complain about tank Ekko obviously weren't here for tank Fizz

Meep ManApr 19, 20163 votes

Tank Fizz was actually never quite as successful as Tank Ekko is right now. Tank Fizz had at most a 55% win rate. Tank Ekko is currently sitting at around 57.5% and a very large ban rate.

Go0bEr L1TtLeApr 19, 20163 votes

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People that complain about tank obviously weren't here for tank

well...tank ekko is almost as bad, if not worse.

billxxApr 19, 20162 votes

Ok, forgive me for not agreeing with everyone else, but I don't see why people hate fizz. His most annoying move is his e, and that has a massive mana cost. I get that dots are annoying, but what about swain? He was even more dots. I get his full combo has everything annoying, but if you can get out of his e a lot of his dmg is gone.

InHaruhiWeTrustApr 19, 20162 votes

Ekko might be even worse than fizz. since his release he is either never played or absolute cancer. unless riot straight up starts removing things from his kit, i don't think he will ever be balanceable.

Moe ShelbyNov 3, 20162 votes

10 Bans on next season i can finally ban him every game

And A Real HieroNov 3, 20161 votes

Oh man its gonna be so sweet banning those cancerous champs from existence.

CasterGilgameshApr 19, 20161 votes

yah i have 2 other champions to add to your hate list Nidalee Ezreal

OelykApr 19, 20162 votes

as a top main, ekko whould be on their too.

Matthew100xApr 19, 20161 votes

There's a way to fix Fizz

Playful / Trickster - Fizz's E no longer makes you invulnerable, instead takes half damage while in the air.

Literally every champion besides vlad when in the air will still take damage or get hit by abilities. My favorite example is playing gnar top against a Cho'gath and getting knocked into the air while i jump over his spikes. If fizz took damage while in his E, the champion would be many times less broken.

DorkunedAurasApr 19, 20162 votes

and also completely, utterly useless

VittorixApr 27, 20171 votes

i agree why not make a champ who can counter almost any skillshot+point and click nad make ult that has big range with big ass hitbox that can one shot you?