When you get champs like 
who just like constantly fall in and out of meta?
Don't get me wrong. These champs are strong, but there are better picks. It seems as though everytime I see vs 
. always wins. and for the most part have to be in the jungle to be effective. is deadly and can pretty much 1v5 if she's ahead.
Edit: Damn. Here comes the down-vote squad.
Clockwork Mouse15 votesBecause he is popular and probably sells skins.
ZaFishbone2 votes[{quoted}](name=Clockwork Mouse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yU5k25O5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-06T06:16:16.840+0000)
Because he is popular and probably sells skins.
Which is in no small part due to Faker making LoL history while playing zed.
usul12022 votesHe got heavy nerfs a patch before galaxy slayer came out though, and that was riots biggest money making chance with him...
Ahri Baka15 votesPeople who main him believe he is in a weak state And people like Stylish kept whining and calling him a garbage champion Even Faker called him garbage and adviced Zed players to not to play the champion , I don't agree , if I do then maybe it's it's a high Challenger thing in Korea since all picks there are meta which might causes Zed to struggle
But I guess when Faker said Zed is weak , Riot decided to buff him that time
Mortismo1 votesUpcoming skin was the real reason
CrazyMonkeyCZ6 votesZed is Ahri of ad assassins, every class needs their own Ahri.
AR URF4 votesZed is Ahri of ad assassins, every class needs their own Ahri.
The difference though is zed's stuff goes through minions.
CrazyMonkeyCZ3 votes[{quoted}](name=AR URF,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yU5k25O5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-06T07:06:17.164+0000)
The difference though is zed's stuff goes through minions.
I meant Ahri as exemple of champ who is never out of meta, I wasn't comparing their kits.
Ahri Baka2 votesI meant Ahri as exemple of champ who is never out of meta, I wasn't comparing their kits.
Still bad example tho Ahri isn't even meta and was never meta since I joined League ( Season 7 ) A good and safe pick that depends a lot on getting carried can never be meta
CrazyMonkeyCZ4 votes[{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yU5k25O5,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-06T08:40:29.276+0000)
Still bad example tho Ahri isn't even meta and was never meta since I joined League ( Season 7 ) A good and safe pick that depends a lot on getting carried can never be meta
Feel free to dig around in those archieves, Ahri is in top 10 in almost every patch, never really going under 50% winrate.
From my memory, it was similar before S5, but I might be wrong.
Not meta? She is S/A tier in every good tierlist for years now.
Ahri Baka1 votesFeel free to dig around in those archieves, Ahri is in top 10 in almost every patch, never really going under 50% winrate.
From my memory, it was similar before S5, but I might be wrong.
Not meta? She is S/A tier in every good tierlist for years now.
Safety Sites might show she is S tier but she is barely A tier A tier is not meta A site won't know that she is safe so it won't show you what I'm saying She surely has the stats of a meta champion according to her winrate But we all know that she is just safe , fitting in the snowballing meta where she just doesn't feed Safety won't make a meta champion that can hard carry games.
Ahri before her rework at the beginning of season 8 had a higher winrate now ( but slightly less pick rate ) nearly the same stats
Yet she was a garbage tier champion in mid lane , she had 20% less damage overall , her W was a complete troll ability where it might hit the tank even if you charm a carry ( thankfully that changed now )
Yet she also had a high winrate and sites showed her as S tier The reason is and was Safety. She is surely a better champion than before , but can't call that meta , if someone makes an account and wants to pick a champion to climb ASAP , they wouldn't choose Ahri.
CrazyMonkeyCZ2 votes[{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yU5k25O5,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-06T11:43:16.031+0000)
Safety Sites might show she is S tier but she is barely A tier A tier is not meta A site won't know that she is safe so it won't show you what I'm saying She surely has the stats of a meta champion according to her winrate But we all know that she is just safe , fitting in the snowballing meta where she just doesn't feed Safety won't make a meta champion that can hard carry games.
Ahri before her rework at the beginning of season 8 had a higher winrate now ( but slightly less pick rate ) nearly the same stats
Yet she was a garbage tier champion in mid lane , she had 20% less damage overall , her W was a complete troll ability where it might hit the tank even if you charm a carry ( thankfully that changed now )
Yet she also had a high winrate and sites showed her as S tier The reason is and was Safety. She is surely a better champion than before , but can't call that meta , if someone makes an account and wants to pick a champion to climb ASAP , they wouldn't choose Ahri.
Meta - referring to what are the strongest strategies currently
Character that can play aggresively while being safe with 3 dashes every two minutes fits into this meta and fitted into every other meta, she is part of mid meta since forever.
What's meta if not top picked champs?
You probably won't pull out 1v9 with Ahri, but you won't 1v9 in your main elo anyway, that's why she is so good, you said safe without mentioning aggresion she can pull out duo to her safety, that's why she is so picked.
Ahri Baka1 votesMeta - referring to what are the strongest strategies currently
Character that can play aggresively while being safe with 3 dashes every two minutes fits into this meta and fitted into every other meta, she is part of mid meta since forever.
What's meta if not top picked champs?
You probably won't pull out 1v9 with Ahri, but you won't 1v9 in your main elo anyway, that's why she is so good, you said safe without mentioning aggresion she can pull out duo to her safety, that's why she is so picked.
Mate Meta is surely the strongest strategy, but being her play style can never be one of the strongest strategies Aggression can be pulled with almost every other mid laner and they are even better than Ahri with it Even Lux is much more aggressive than her while Lux is a garbage Tier mid laner
Ahri is extremely Ult reliant You said it , 2 Minutes , it's 2 minutes , forcing her to use that 2 minutes Ultimate for safety isn't always an advantage to her because it's her jey to be viable Her main kit is almost nothing without her Ult unless you play her with Glacial Build If you're talking about thar build then that's something else. I'm talking about the normal Ahri.
Daddy Ants4 votes[{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yU5k25O5,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-06T08:40:29.276+0000)
Still bad example tho Ahri isn't even meta and was never meta since I joined League ( Season 7 ) A good and safe pick that depends a lot on getting carried can never be meta
Ahri's never really been "out of meta"
Never in the 3.5 years I've played league have I seen Ahri at or below 50% win rate.
Baron Barian3 votesZed is Ahri of ad assassins, every class needs their own Ahri.
Do tanks have an Ahri?
LordGeovanni1 votesCan fighters tanks and supports get an arhi that inst just mid lane mages in other peoples roles.
hhaavviikk6 voteslike someone said because he's popular, he deals the most damage out of all assassin's in the game and his mobility is only below that of Leblanc making him very forgiving as well
boricCentaur16 votesBecause he isn't strong every season that is a lie. Zed was not good last year and was only strong in season 7 since assassins were meta for the first half but after all of them fall off and were shit, he was definitely not meta in season 6.
Like is this your first season or something? Like wtf how can you even believe this? There are a few champions that are always good but zed is not one them. Yeah he has not been bad every season but most champions are like that.
AR URF3 votesBecause he isn't strong every season that is a lie. Zed was not good last year and was only strong in season 7 since assassins were meta for the first half but after all of them fall off and were shit, he was definitely not meta in season 6.
Like is this your first season or something? Like wtf how can you even believe this? There are a few champions that are always good but zed is not one them. Yeah he has not been bad every season but most champions are like that.
Actually he's strong. His win rate is 51% according to league of graphs.
boricCentaur13 votesSo you make post about zed being good every season THEN YOU USE STATS FROM THIS SEASON TO HE IS GOOD. Yep you have 0 clue about this and your just being biased.
Like you being up winrate showing you don't know why he is good or what statistics mean and you use current stats IN A POST ABOUT THE PAST like are you trolling?
AR URF3 votesSo you make post about zed being good every season THEN YOU USE STATS FROM THIS SEASON TO HE IS GOOD. Yep you have 0 clue about this and your just being biased.
Like you being up winrate showing you don't know why he is good or what statistics mean and you use current stats IN A POST ABOUT THE PAST like are you trolling?
Except for the fact that I've played since season 3 and have known him to be at the 50% range for win rate.
Edge of Daybreak2 votesNope. Zed dropped to 43% winrate after a round of nerfs he when he was at 52% and riot buffed him. Boards lost their minds over that. Then there was the post assassin rework in season 6 where he dropped to 47%. He also has not been meta every season.
SuperTopLFBottom1 votesBecause he isn't strong every season that is a lie. Zed was not good last year and was only strong in season 7 since assassins were meta for the first half but after all of them fall off and were shit, he was definitely not meta in season 6.
Like is this your first season or something? Like wtf how can you even believe this? There are a few champions that are always good but zed is not one them. Yeah he has not been bad every season but most champions are like that.
Zed got gutted to the ground in season 6 because of the non stop whining of bad players. He was legit at 44% winrate and not even mains reached 50%.
He came a bit back when lethality came around and got buffed to scale on your own level rather than the enemy.
People here are just absolutely delusional. Complaining about zed when talon, kha zix, eve just murder you with no counterplay and no way to actually fight back.
And where does this come from? Zed is spammed in gold and below and talon, kha, eve are higher elo picks. Chally is full of talon otps many of whom don't deserve it but talon is kinda broken rn.
Yuumi or Dodge5 votesHonestly, I agree. My opinion might be "low elo", but I think Zed's design is quite unhealthy. I mean, he is a melee ad assassin that has harass stronger than a lot of control mages, and if he's behind he can just farm safely with his shadow, no risk required. I don't have any problems playing against him, I just highly dislike the fact that an assassin, who are meant to get up in your face unless their name is LeBlanc, can farm or harass from such a ridiculously high range. So, not only is he a very oppressive laner, he is also very safe and very forgiving. My first ever game with Zed, I went 15/3. I would like it if we made a champion that's supposed to be hard less forgiving. Take Azir for example, who's meant to be one of the hardest champions. He isn't forgiving - he has no get-out-of-jail free cards except his e, which you can screw up by pressing it on the wrong soldier. Zed can't mess up his w unless he places it on the wrong side of a wall somehow.
PhearBunny5 votesZed, Yasuo, Ahri, etc. Hyperoverloaded champions are the standard of balance now. Riot sees them as being balanced, while the rest of the champion pool is just undertuned or needs a rework.
Nevrankroaton4 votesIf you think Zed is strong/broken atm, nothing can save you. Also, if you think Talon Vs Zed is in Zed favour, you never played the match-up because Talon dumpster Zed in and out
Zed is also certainly not meta atm, do you even see what the top pick are? Ryze, Sylas, Irelia, Akali (less priority tho), Vlad, Neeko (flex, not OP as a mid), Leblanc. We see Syndra, Orianna, Lissandra too. But by NO MEAN do we get a Zed in pro play and he is rare at high elo.
AR URF3 votesIf you think Zed is strong/broken atm, nothing can save you. Also, if you think Talon Vs Zed is in Zed favour, you never played the match-up because Talon dumpster Zed in and out
Zed is also certainly not meta atm, do you even see what the top pick are? Ryze, Sylas, Irelia, Akali (less priority tho), Vlad, Neeko (flex, not OP as a mid), Leblanc. We see Syndra, Orianna, Lissandra too. But by NO MEAN do we get a Zed in pro play and he is rare at high elo.
Whether or not beats is beside the point I made. The point I made is that whenever I see those two go at it. usually loses. Whether or not that changes in higher elo, I don't know. I play the game, I don't watch it.
Nevrankroaton1 votesWhat the fuck is the point of saying this then?
If I say I saw recently three kayle beating a renekton ignite early, it doesn't mean that the match-up isn't hard or bad for kayle early, etc. There is no fucking fact in this, I could tell you "I had two yuumi player saying hail hitler", it doesn't mean I would be right supposing or claiming yuumi player are fucking nazi (yes, point godwin, fuck it, it is too dumb of a conversation).
Aazzlano2 votesIdk man, Riven/Yas/Zed players are the most toxic players in the game. Also Riven is the champ with the most leavers, highly related to them being toxic. Certain types of champs draw certain types of people. Just so happens that low quality people tend to play certain champions more. In fact, I just had a Riven ragequit after going like 0/3 in lane (by like 6-7 minute mark) and deciding to just int and leave after that. It's normal. It's also expected when you have a Yasuo player for them to be a rager. It's just the way it is.
I'm not saying anything about matchups or whatever, but there certainly can be a lot of truth in certain types of people playing certain champs, and that you getting someone playing those champs gives you a much much higher chance of getting that kind of person.
It's like horoscopes but with league champ mains, and actually with factual basis. Not that it applies to everyone, but it tends to be pretty accurate.
14daysuspensionk4 votesUIgh, no...not Zed. I fucking hate that shit. That's why I won't play him along with Yasuo and Yi. In this game I'm mostly interested in just getting Mastery 7 on low pickrate champs, so far it has been successful, 8 Mastery 7s so fa, latest one was 
.
xAcidik4 votesI don't have time for a long drawn out reply but it is my opinion that Zed is the only completely unpunishable champion in this game, and his design is the only design that allows him to dive as deeply as he wants and emerge unscathed. I'm fine with Akali, the assassin who seems to be the most hated, I'm fine with every other assassin. But Zed is obnoxious.
Wizard Blaze4 votesSkins. he alongside Yasuo they sell a lot of skins.
AetherArising3 votesbecause Muh China:tm: [zombie-brand-clap]
Daddy Ants3 votesHe's annoying, yes.
He's definitely not broken.
Blåsigt2 votesTo be honest, I do not think Zed is super strong. However, I think the interaction between his passive, his abilities and runes might make him a little more than some people can handle in the early game. That being said, as a Karma player that regularly duels Zeds in the mid lane, I think he is a very easy champion to beat.
witchbÍades2 votesNot sure what mental illness this can possibly be
Meteora7071 votestalon counters zed, tell me a time when kat and k6 haven't been meta.
Andevar1 votesTalon’s R counters Zed R. There’s nothing else to it and it’s generally a 50/50 matchup.
Meteora7071 voteszed has a 45%~ wr in the matchup, it has a lot to do with talon just being strong but talon kinda beats zed even when his not that bonkers.
Andevar2 votesI play Talon religiously in high plat and I can tell you that the majority of Talon players and mains have trouble with this matchup.
In fact Zed has a higher winrate against Talon and an advantage on him according to Champion.gg, OP.GG, and other sites.
Fact is, Talon generally loses against Zed.
Meteora7071 voteswell you're right, talon does lose to zed in plat, in dia+? 55% wr for talon, in masters? more, challenger? even more.
Śhunpo1 votesWhen Kat got 5+ nerfs in a row, retained her ~0.5 sec cast time Shunpo and it was Ardent meta. She dropped down to a 41% win rate :D
That's when she wasn't meta. Also right after Bone Plating was released and subsequently nerfed.
Meteora7071 voteskat has dipped bellow 50% wr 3 times in the past 5 years, the longest shes been out of meta is what, like 6 months? over the period of 10 years?
Śhunpo1 votesPre-rework she was only really "meta" for 3 patches haha.
Meteora7071 votesguess you never played league in seasons 1 and 2 huh
Śhunpo1 votesShe was even worse during her v1 variation's lifetime.
GodlyBane1 votesbecause hes not powerful at all
Darknesshas11 votesif the character is flipping between OP and Garbo, they need a rework. It means their power is unevenly distributed and cant be balanced bc their top heavy
ORB1TS1 votesLethality is a scaling stat legit all you mage players need to do is buy one cloth armor and your fine till lvl 11 ontop of that you have a literal rune that gives you stopwatch and also have zhonyas. Zed is in a good spot right now please stop bitching about him.