It's very low. I think that's what makes it frustrating for people. The mana cost on Darius Q is so low that it let's him Q spam a lot making it look like he's resourceless. Even with the Q mana cost nerf and building black cleaver, he is still able to spam. I have never seen a Darius run out of mana.
360D3GR3SS3 votesDarius needs his Q to be spammable to be relevant. Just be thankful it isn't still 30 at all levels/ranks.
Asayake 5150glow2 votesDarius needs his Q to be spammable to be relevant. Just be thankful it isn't still 30 at all levels/ranks.
What. Why. The only possible explanation for giving it a 4.5 second CD with Cleaver is if he can't continuously spam it.
360D3GR3SS3 votesSo what do you think is an appropriate mana cost? Because I think for how telegraphed and how low his attackspeed is, 50 is very appropriate.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesSo what do you think is an appropriate mana cost? Because I think for how telegraphed and how low his attackspeed is, 50 is very appropriate.
Except it means he can have constant 12% life heals. So, I'd say it should scale up to 80 or so.
360D3GR3SS2 votes80 mana are you insane? It's 12% MISSING HP which is very different from 12% total life. 80 mana would mean he could use it 3 times at level 1 and 11 times at level 18.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes80 mana are you insane? It's 12% MISSING HP which is very different from 12% total life. 80 mana would mean he could use it 3 times at level 1 and 11 times at level 18.
I said SCALE UP. Duh. 11 times at lvl 18 is plenty. Hell, most people can't even spam a high damage percent heal 11 times. Not that I can think of any right now.
360D3GR3SS1 votesIts also extremely telegraphed and painfully easy to dodge. You literally just run away or towards and you avoid the heal and large damage. 11 times is not nearly enough for a champion that is almost completely reliant and skills and gets MAYBE 3 autos in due to his shit attackspeed.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesIts also extremely telegraphed and painfully easy to dodge. You literally just run away or towards and you avoid the heal and large damage. 11 times is not nearly enough for a champion that is almost completely reliant and skills and gets MAYBE 3 autos in due to his shit attackspeed.
Oh? So your plan to kill Darius is not to fight him, is it? If you need to run away or toward him, you get 4.25 seconds to do anything at all. And he's still got W and E, both with slows. Besides, it's not as if you could get away from him without burning an escape - Darius is meant to be slow, Dead Man's Plate solves that.
360D3GR3SS1 votesexcept for the fact that he has low base movement speed for melee, you are also forgetting the movement speed given to him by black cleaver. Even with all these movement speed items, Yes he is extremely easy to kite as nearly anyone.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesexcept for the fact that he has low base movement speed for melee, you are also forgetting the movement speed given to him by black cleaver. Even with all these movement speed items, Yes he is extremely easy to kite as nearly anyone.
Yeah.... And the whole point is that Juggernauts should be extremley easy to kite. Not as easy as anyone. Low base movespeed? Simply being melee means he will outrun all ranged. Boots is + 45, so 340 + 45 = 395. 395 + 60 (from Dead Man's) = 455. Uh. Easy to get away from, right? Add in his 2 slows and pull...
360D3GR3SS1 votesYeah is is extremely to get away from. It's like you have never even played as him or against him ROFL.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesYeah is is extremely to get away from. It's like you have never even played as him or against him ROFL.
I've played against him. And I'm telling you, the only way not to die is to kite with ranged skills. And I've never been able to get away once I burned my mobility to engage.
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I've played against him. And I'm telling you, the only way not to die is to kite with ranged skills. And** I've never been able to get away once I burned my mobility to engage**.
found your problem
Asayake 5150glow1 votesfound your problem
Yeah? What about those who only have engage mobility? (target enemy dashes)
360D3GR3SS1 votesThen you engage when it is favorable. Not out of the blue to fight him. So basically only when you're getting a gank in lane.
Baunjo1 votesYeah healing for 12% of your missing health off 1 single champion hit is not something that needs to be spammed.
Thanks.
360D3GR3SS1 votesIt is if you are easily kited and the spell itself is extremely easy to avoid and telegraphed.
WinBoat1 votesUm, why should he run out of mana from using his Q? If he decides to E, and W, he pretty much goes on empty right away, he doesn't need that to happen to his Q.
Besides, his E might be the worst part of the kit, so yeah.
Yuumi or Lose2 votesBecause he can just spam it constantly and trade with a lot of the champion pool, including ranged. Darius doesn't even need to use his skill combo to trade. He needs to get punished for using Q. Some Darius don't even use flask because they know they never get mana hungry.
SaltyKracka1 votes...Are you kidding me? His E and W cost 30 and 45 mana respectively.
That's fucking peanuts.
Squidsmastah1 votesOK, just how many people are aware that the heal only triggers of it HITS ENEMY CHAMPIONS. He can't heal off of minions and monsters.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesOK, just how many people are aware that the heal only triggers of it HITS ENEMY CHAMPIONS. He can't heal off of minions and monsters.
Yeah, we know.