What the boards think tanking is

Eedat·Sep 13, 2016·98 votes·5,136 views

"AH-HA! Not so fast you foul being! The day is mine !!!"

: Q -> Flash -> max range Ult

: "I have you now! BEHOLD! My IM-FUCKING-PENETRABLE as I bash your head in with it!"

: "Get off our , bitch"

: "Haha! The joke is on you! My team will be following up on my 2000+ range dash promptly!!"

: "Uh......no"

2 seconds later

: "hhhh......how can this be? Did.... did they not see my armor shining valiantly in the sun? Do they not realize I am an UN-KILLABLE GOD?! Do they not notice muh KDA? Urrggggg! With my final breath...... I must.... make... a thread on the boards.......'Tanks die too fast.....fuck....you.....Rito'......uggghhhhh"

Ally has been slain

124 Comments

dunder killSep 13, 201692 votes

Hahaha! How about an alternative ending?

Janna Ally has been slain

Vayne : "....."

Janna : "dont you dare say it"

Vayne : "......Janna......"

Janna : "dont you fucking dare"

Vayne : "KS"

Janna : "GOD. DAMN. IT. WHY?!"

Vayne : PING (mia) PING (mia) PING PING

Vayne A summoner has disconnected

dominusxSep 13, 201638 votes

this is more realistic considering it's a vayne adc

Remlap1223Sep 13, 20162 votes

I seriously don't get it. Why the bashing on Vayne players? Are you guys still so salty about her being strong end of Season 5? The most toxic player in the game was a Draven main, but we all gotta bash the Vayne players. Because reasons.

In before salty Vayne main, I don't even ADC.

Battlecast SonaSep 13, 201619 votes

there's a reason that Vayne is the only ADC with her own name for getting caught out in hilarious ways (Vaynespotting). There's just a certain attitude/playstyle that a lot of Vayne mains have as a result of her playstyle - you have to go super ham to really get anything done on her so you basically are either gosu or a feeder... That's why there are so many jokes about Vayne players, lol.

Pale PirateSep 13, 20162 votes

You don't have to go super ham as her. It's just that people can't play with her super low range, and they end up going hum.

BLACK REALM GODSep 13, 20166 votes

this needs more upvotes

edit imma add one too.

Vayne ally has been slain

PING PING PING PING PING PING

MonkeyKing Has slain the dragon

Irelia EXECUTED

Vayne What a noob. dies by turret GG.

Vayne Has started a surrender vote

A minion has destroyed the turret

WeatheredSep 13, 201610 votes

Whenever someone does the spam question ping I usually just go "you're right, the enemy is missing"

Solari FortuneSep 13, 201650 votes

I see the problem

built item 3071 like a pleb. item 3078 Master Race

Only Play DariusSep 13, 20165 votes

Why not both?

HyperiönSep 13, 20161 votes

The passives are unique. So you pretty much waste one passive.

SpoofghoulSep 13, 20161 votes

who cares they both awesome on vi

HyperiönSep 13, 20161 votes

Um, it matters a lot actually.

If you go cleaver on Vi, you best go item 3025 item 3071

Remlap1223Sep 13, 20162 votes

The gold value lost from the stacking phage passives are negligible. I build her with Cinderhulk and Cleaver and Triforce, and the bonus health value gained from both more than makes up for that.

Solari FortuneSep 13, 20163 votes

Cause you waste a phage passive and also 10% CDR cause Warrior gives you 10% Also, Vi already has armor shred so you don't need Black Cleaver. and Sheen procs are amazing with Vi

Auz the RipperSep 13, 20167 votes

Stacking armor shred is quite effective

RalanrSep 13, 201618 votes

Silly . You call yourself a tank when you're really a bruiser. This is why you fail, you deny what you TRULY ARE!!!!!!!

EedatSep 13, 201616 votes

: "NO IM A TANK CANT YOU SEE I HAVE 3 DEFENSIVE ITEMS PLUS 1 HP ITEM OMG LOOK AT THIS AMATEUR"

RalanrSep 13, 201635 votes

Sion : Sipping some tea Sure you are. Sighs Simpleton.

MelledoneusSep 13, 201627 votes

Shen Refills cup "More sugar?"

Electro522Sep 13, 20168 votes

Maokai Oh! hands over cup Yes please!

RevaliSep 13, 20167 votes

Zac These jerks don't know when to quit.

Pale PirateSep 13, 20166 votes

Ekko Can I join the club guys?!

Dr PoroSep 13, 201617 votes

no, you sit with Vi.

7 FiresSep 13, 20167 votes

You already have a club

A very effective club at that

KeevalroySep 13, 201613 votes

No! I refuse to see Vi as a bruiser!

item 1401 item 3111 item 3190 item 3143 item 3075 item 3102

Nothing has changed! It's still season 3! Full tank Vi, full tank Elise, full tank J4, full tank Nocturne, sightstone tank Nunu, Bruiser Kha and Eve, Maokai isn't a bad jungler! I've been drinking tonight but I still know what season it is and my junglers tell me I'm right!

HibekiSep 13, 201613 votes

No this is what I see

Volibear : item 3083 item 3065 item 3742 item 3111 item 3800 item 1401

Volibear : Dont worry guys, I'll body block and protect our carries!

Volibear : Oh item 3033 and item 3116 means I'm literally nonexistant this fight and die in under 5 seconds because damage is ridiculously high. Not to mention item 3071 and armor shred on champions meaning out of my 200 armor I basically have only 40.

Jhin UItd JFKSep 13, 201611 votes

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No this is what I see

:

: Dont worry guys, I'll body block and protect our carries!

: Oh and means I'm literally nonexistant this fight and die in under 5 seconds because damage is ridiculously high. Not to mention and armor shred on champions meaning out of my 200 armor I basically have only 40.

lol found someone who thinks thinks this is what tanking is xd

HibekiSep 13, 20167 votes

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lol found someone who thinks thinks this is what tanking is xd

I bought literally no offense items. How is this what OP is talking about?

HateDaddySep 13, 201624 votes

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I bought literally no offense items. How is this what OP is talking about?

You're a ball of health

You have almost no way of reducing physical damage and hp stacking like that opens you up to a plethora of different max %hp damage.

BLACK REALM GODSep 13, 20162 votes

lol i can think of three that would completely melt overcompensating hp builds. item 3153 item 3151 Elise ... need i say more?

add the rest as you see fit.

Mandang0Sep 13, 20162 votes

Those first two suck, and Elise isn't going to melt anyone with %HP damage on a 6s cooldown.

Some of the items in his build suck, but I think the stat split is pretty close to optimal.

Mr FidoriSep 13, 20163 votes

To be fair, building armor is a joke because everyone builds Youmuu's and/or Cleaver (and/or Mortal Reminder) on everyone.

Battlecast SonaSep 13, 20166 votes

Youmu's = 20 Arpen

Chain Vest = 40 armor

Let's do some math real quick. If an ADC is utilizing the "armor pen build" (let's say they have item 3142 item 3033 item 3147 ) That's 30 flat Arpen and 45% bonus armor pen. We're giving them some crit too since most carries finish out their builds with it these days, even if they are going lots of arpen!

Volibear has 85 base armor at level 18. Meaning that with no armor, he has 55 effective armor against the above build (since no bonus armor is shred, since no armor items). This gives him 33% less damage taken from physical attacks, roughly. So a 1000 damage autoattack will do 670 damage to Volibear, roughly. Great.

With one armor item (let's say the Dead Man's Plate from above), he has +50 armor, giving him 130 armor total. First we take 45% from his bonus armor (we'll say 25 armor because laziness), leaving him with roughly 100 armor. This is further reduced by flat pen to 70 armor. With 1 armor item we take 41% reduced damage from physical attack. Extra 8% reduction, seems kinda worth especially over time (that's like 80 damage an auto, adds up pretty quick).

Let's add Randuin's. So we add 60 bonus armor to the equation giving us 110 bonus armor. This leaves us with roughly 60 bonus armor after % pen, 30 bonus armor after flat pen, meaning we have roughly 110 armor. At 110 armor, you take 52% reduced damage from physical attacks, a full 11% more reduction for a single armor item! This means in our 1k crit scenario we're taking almost 200 less damage compared to no armor items an AA, and this is before including Randuin's crit reduction.

But tell me again how armor is worthless this season. Kappa

Critmaster GarenSep 13, 20161 votes

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lol found someone who thinks thinks this is what tanking is xd

actually he described exactly what tanking is. at least as far as a bruiser is able to "tank".

body blocking skillshots for the backline, and taking down enemy divers. so he does have a point when he says he shouldnt blow up like a paper machet puppet and be nailed to the ground by rylais until he dies while teamfighting, and not even trying to dive 1v5 into the enemy team like the op described.

and that armor calculation isnt even exaggeration. you can get up to 70 flat armor pen from runes and masteries, with item 3142 item 3147 item 3156 together with the penetration from a last whisper, or the shred of a cleaver, of your 200 armor, there will literally be 60 armor left.

agaisnt other squishies this build makes you deal straight up true damage.

Mandang0Sep 13, 20162 votes

Deadman's Plate, Righteous Glory, and Mercs are all suboptimal if he's seriously trying to only block skillshots and take down enemy divers. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the Volibear was trying to engage with that build instead.

And if he's concerned about marksmen, maybe he should purchase one of the items designed specifically to counter them: item 3047 item 3143 item 3110

HateDaddySep 13, 201616 votes

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No this is what I see

:

: Dont worry guys, I'll body block and protect our carries!

: Oh and means I'm literally nonexistant this fight and die in under 5 seconds because damage is ridiculously high. Not to mention and armor shred on champions meaning out of my 200 armor I basically have only 40.

Of course you would with that build, you're all hp lmao

MelledoneusSep 13, 20167 votes

Kindred would have a field day on this one.

HazyCloud7Sep 13, 20161 votes

Meanwhile Volibear with cinderhulk has the damage to literally 100-0 most midlaners at level 6. Screw that champ.

Spaceman5pffSep 13, 20165 votes

Heaven forbid a kiteable champ with no way to dodge wards and one defensive buff (regen which only kicks in low hp and as such is easily countered by morellos) has some damage!

BeMyFriendPleaseSep 13, 20163 votes

{quoted}

No this is what I see

:

: Dont worry guys, I'll body block and protect our carries!

: Oh and means I'm literally nonexistant this fight and die in under 5 seconds because damage is ridiculously high. Not to mention and armor shred on champions meaning out of my 200 armor I basically have only 40.

You got downvoted FOR THE FUCKING TRUTH

GOT HELP THIS COMMUNITY ROFL

Battlecast SonaSep 13, 20165 votes

because his build is countered by a single carry with armor pen building a BotRK. It's not a tank build.

BeMyFriendPleaseSep 13, 20163 votes

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because his build is countered by a single carry with armor pen building a BotRK. It's not a tank build.

In any game fucking ever, it's common sense to build resistances, and hp, for tanks.

This stupid game with %hp damage and true damage makes people go "BRUISERS R NAWT TANKS" where ANYWHERE else something with 3x a "carry"'s hp with 2-3x resists IS A TANK.

This stupid ass community just has their head so far up its own ass nobody can realize that TANKY ITEMS ARE TANKY.

Sure, the game has made counters to "tanky items" so dumb sheep can go "SEE HUR DUR IT RNT TANK" when anti bruiser items ALSO CRUSH CARRIES AND TANKS. The issue of damage creep is a deep one, but it's borderline offensive how unrealistically ignorant people are that they cannot even COMPREHEND that this is an issue of game balance.

Just because a tanky item gives damage doesnt MAGICALLY make it not a tank item. Get real

Battlecast SonaSep 13, 20166 votes

uh....

It's not a tank build because he has like 70 effective armor against a carry with any sort of armor pen at all. It has nothing to do with the damage on the items, it has to do with the fact that he has a single armor item (and it's one of the lowest armor items in the game).

Making a single additional armor item reduces the damage you take from a crit that is over 1k by 200-300 a pop, even more if it's a randuin's. And that's why it's not a tank build.

When you put literally 50 armor in your entire build you don't get to turn around and complain that tanks aren't tanky enough.

CatastropSep 13, 20161 votes

You think Mortal Reminder and a Rylai's is enough to stop a Voli? Le Mao.

LovelleSep 13, 20161 votes

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You think Mortal Reminder and a Rylai's is enough to stop a Voli? Le Mao.

Executioners calling is more than enough past mid game, where he starts falling off.

CatastropSep 14, 20161 votes

Yeah but GW won't have effect until his passive procs, at which point he's disrupted the fight log enough his teammates to pick everyone else apart because majority of the enemy cd's are gone. Although with the build that he guy I replied to had, I'm not surprised he didn't much regardless.

LovelleSep 14, 20161 votes

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Yeah but GW won't have effect until his passive procs, at which point he's disrupted the fight log enough his teammates to pick everyone else apart because majority of the enemy cd's are gone. Although with the build that he guy I replied to had, I'm not surprised he didn't much regardless.

GW is always effective, as hp regen items also serve as sustain. There is honestly no reason not to get it every game. Don't underestimate the regen from Warmogs and SV, especially on champs with innate sustain.

GW is honestly overpowered and imo should never be on a cost effective/good item.

rtbf225618241Sep 13, 20162 votes

I'm more pissed that the Vayne can't 1v1 and those pussies have to come help her.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 13, 201617 votes

Hey dude, language.

We don't use the V word here.

RainbowIceeSep 13, 20162 votes

Depends on how many items vayne has and where she is fighting. But the vi flashed and used her Q when she didnt have a guranteed kill so thats her bad.