Delete ADCs Please

Hauling Ashe·12/16/2016, 4:11:26 AM·5 votes·1,150 views

There is a hidden irony in what the board wants when they say they want to get rid of marksmen from the meta.

DPS is what takes objectives, and it's the one thing that truly counters tanks. Burst is weak against beefier champs due to high damage abilities on long cooldowns, and I think - judging by the board's cries over the item 3116 nerf - everyone is aware that AP is more costly and less efficient over the long term than AD. So, without squishies to prey on, assassins would only be able to feed off other assassins, which would nullify their place in the game. Champs like Malzahar would barely tickle heavy champs with any notable amount of MR. So the only burst champions that will be relevant are hyper mobile APCs - basically, Ahri every game. Good luck, assassin players. By deleting ADCs, Riot might as well delete you too.

Tank/bruiser battles will come down to who can outsustain. CC will be king, because the battles will come down to getting your high sustain champions to 1v1 or even 1v2 the enemy's more damage oriented champs. So if you aren't annoyed by Trundle already, you will be.

But you still need some DPS and someone capable of outright murdering tanks. Someone with movement speed, attack speed, and armor pen. Or maybe... TRUE DAMAGE. Yasuo Fiora That's right, here's the irony: If you weren't already tired of Yasuo, expect to see him even more in spite of any upcoming nerfs.

Here's what a typical matchup would probably look like in an era with no marksmen. Nasus Irelia Ahri DrMundo Fiora Darius Trundle Ekko Malphite Yasuo

Can't wait to see one of these teamfights, can you? It will basically be everyone's health bars going up and down like a slinky as they desperately attempt to out-lifesteal each other.

20 Comments

WoonStruck12/16/2016, 5:29:17 AM4 votes

People don't want dps carries to stop existing. They just want ranged ADCs to not be considered mandatory and for the game to revolve 100% around them.

Also, ranged ADCs not being present in a meta wouldn't somehow remove supports from existence or change the mage/jungle meta.

Nasus, Irelia, Ekko, Malphite, Ahri, and Yasuo would all be much weaker in a meta without ADCs.

Irelia Bot12/16/2016, 4:13:29 AM3 votes

We want Faceless void as our carry.

Critmaster Garen12/16/2016, 8:12:25 AM3 votes

people arent asking to delete marksmen. theyre asking to make them not mandatory to every team. its a difference.

whats neccessary to take objectives, or generally to a team is sustained damage, not ranged adc.

people seem to make this mistake in their thinking, that ranged adc are (supposed to be) the only carries that exist in this game. there is also a variety of ap carries, and melee carries.

there is really only 1 thing that needs to change to make adc not mandatory in this game.

either the xp distribution in duo lanes, which could be done via itemization. or fixing the melee/ranged lane matchups in general and make ranged adc/support duos less opressive.

for example, if all support items like item 3302 would grant their partners additional xp to the point that duo laners would keep up in levels with the solo laners, then it would be possible to take level dependent champions into bot lane, as they would get (almost) equal xp and gold as in a solo lane.

the reason why Mordekaiser xp mechanic was unfair, was because it granted him a level advantage over the enemy duo, as he would get the full amount of xp, while the enemy would not.

if just everyone in the game on both sides would roughly get the same xp/minute due to proper support itemization, then putting a level and gold dependent champion like an ap carry like Cassiopeia Ryze Azir or a bruiser like Mordekaiser into the duo lane would not gimp him compared to the ranged adc whos only gold dependent.

and it would not make assassins obsolete, because again. ranged adc arent the only type of squishy carry and possible damage threat on the enemy team.

doublelift fg12/16/2016, 9:14:59 AM3 votes

as an adc main, that's the dumbest thread i ever saw

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Nasus Irelia Ahri DrMundo Fiora Darius Trundle Ekko Malphite Yasuo

Can't wait to see one of these teamfights, can you? It will basically be everyone's health bars going up and down like a slinky as they desperately attempt to out-lifesteal each other.

That would be accurate if ADC are deleted, ADC counters champions that can be kited like trundle and darius, if they aren't mandatory but pickable give me twitch and i delete them all

get me out of here

KazaLyn Shao12/16/2016, 4:38:08 AM1 votes

Make all ranged AAs skill shots. Problem solved.

khorney12/16/2016, 7:18:13 AM1 votes

No one is stopping you from.making a 5 man team and carrying this out