Can Riot admit this... The only reason they took so much point and click CC out of the game...

FederationFurry·Apr 22, 2019·6 votes·1,164 views

Like 's stun and other point and click abilities was to benefit assassin players. I see no other reason why they did this.

Champions like are so hard to hit with their mobility that greatly outclasses every other champion in the game that point and click CC is really the only viable way to deal with them. Riot removed this and therefore assassins became much more annoying and unfair to play against.

10 Comments

letsfeedtogetherApr 22, 20199 votes

Maybe because point and click cc has no counter play (?)

FederationFurryApr 22, 20196 votes

But it is needed because champions with 500 dashes, blinks and mobility upgrades like Zed , who also can use item 3142 and summoner 4 for extra mobility on top of his low cooldown, low energy mobility spell are difficult to hit with skillshots. (He never even has resource problems to counter-balance the low cooldowns in his kit)

Assassin damage doesn't bother me, but the amount of safety and mobility these champions get which they don't deserve since they are supposed to kill one target does. They are way too safe and always have been in this game. If you look at other MOBA's assassins they are far less mobile and far less safe.

Zed is just an example but lots of champions have these problems both Assassins and Bruisers. There is no clear weakness to their kits and thats why they feel so toxic to play against.

Vulkus IApr 22, 20195 votes

Or maybe because it has no counterplay. Absolutely stupid post.

ThingamajigApr 22, 20194 votes

except in very few scenarios you can know where zed will be His shadows don't move you know where his ult is going to place him

And there are still point and clicks cc's Zillians slow Nasus slow Vi ult Blitz E Sej stun

Point and click stuns were removed because they lack counterplay AGAINST everything not only assassins against everything A point and click stunned affected maokai as much as zed and you don't want that kind of power because it's not fun nor useful

FederationFurryApr 22, 20193 votes

Oh yes... I remember old Zilean , Taric and Sion constantly topping all the LCS with their completely overpowered point and click. Was that an alternate universe?

ThingamajigApr 22, 20191 votes

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Oh yes... I remember old , and constantly topping all the LCS with their completely overpowered point and click. Was that an alternate universe?

Sion got reworked the moment pros started abusing AP sion Zillian also got reworked soon after pros started realizing the free lane and the power of his ult Taric was reworked because his design was complete trash

LTK KoRoApr 22, 20192 votes

it's 2019 and people still think that zed is op, and that his mobility is unmatched. Funny

hrooza dota Apr 22, 20192 votes

when zed click R on you he appear right behind you, aka aim your skill shot there for easy hits

ØrnnToGetTrolleÐApr 22, 20191 votes

Tarics stun isnt point and click...not really...

EDIT: WOW im actually brainless. Forget this comment

Dorans PantsApr 22, 20191 votes

I think taric is a good example of going from "too reliable" to "completely useless against anyone with a brain". The only people you will reliably hit with that thing now are bad players or champs who are as immobile as you are so only the absolute bottom of the food chain.

And this is really heartbreaking because I quite like the way tarics stun works. The fact that it is telegraphed and can potentially cover a large area while taking your teammates positions into account can make for some very satisfying plays, but in modern league you are almost never in a position where this can happen consistently. Now you are either matched against immobile champs where your stun is super powerful to the point where it feels unfair or you face mobile champs who will never get hit by it which also feels unfair. ( and don´t forget that the ratio, least to me, feels like 15% immobile vs 85% mobile )

So it is like you said. For immobile champs basically, nothing has changed but mobile ones have it a lot easier now. And like always, it´s all to promote more movement to create the illusion of complexity. And one of the main reasons there are so many supporters to this trend is that most people just want to be one of these hypermobile jackasses and don´t really care how this impacts the design of other champs.

eventually, riot will have updated every champ to have insane mobility. It will play like shit but oh boy will it look flashy.