WTF can you even do as ADC if every other lane feeds?

pwc2016·12/8/2019, 4:08:31 AM·3 votes·3,375 views

Title. Just played a game where every lane other that bot and jg was just hard feeding.

Teemo top was 1/5 by 5 minutes.

Yasuo mid 1/7 by 5 minutes. I stay under tower with support, but enemy jungler is so far ahead (I.E at 10 minute, Quinn btw) that they just one shot us under tower. Yi gets a kill, but that's it the whole game. End 0/6/0, literally had no opportunity to do anything the entire game. Teemo and Yasuo keep pushing in waves and dying to ganks.

Is there anything I can do in situations like this? Because I wasn't pushing up or doing anything, just sitting and farming under tower but still died. At that point is it just GG go next, or is there a way to recover if you're not ahead of enemy bot lane (we were even at that point)?

23 Comments

xelaker12/8/2019, 4:52:41 AM7 votes

Get blamed for not carrying.

ÈvilMorty12/8/2019, 8:08:35 AM4 votes

you think adc's have it bad? worse top lane. Bot lane feeds and enemy gets 2 drags but you go 3-0 in lane? well gg next guess i should just play better

MagicFlyingLlama12/8/2019, 4:37:29 AM3 votes

Lose?

The thigh guy12/8/2019, 5:25:03 AM3 votes

Bite the pillow. Because adcs have been gutted.

HKT Saber12/8/2019, 4:30:41 AM3 votes

You play a 1v5 champ such as xayah or kaisa, who can self peel whilst also dealing massive damage And more importantly, it's not like there is any role that can carry whilst even, when your team is behind. It would be more unfair if an adc that goes even somehow manages to 1v5 the game, assuming that the enemy doesn't hard int and feed you.

Checklist: Gold and XP Lead: Missing Peel from Teammates: Missing (Yasuo and Teemo don't provide defense, unlike a tank or a malzahar or even veigar) Scaling Advantage: Missing (It's a teemo that's behind, not a jax/tryndamere/kayle/nasus, and yasuo dying a lot early means that yasuo is bad and won't carry in the late game. More importantly, they have a Veigar) Team Comp: Horrible for reasons above. Master Yi is useless without kills and cs, especially not when there is no frontline

As for 1v9 Ability - Self Peel: Non-existent. You have your W and E, but that's not good enough. Things such as Xayah R, Vayne RQ, Ezreal E and Kaisa E + R are much stronger. Steroid Ability: Non-existent. Unlike Xayah, Kaisa, Tristana and others, Cait doesn't have an on-demand damage boost. This is especially impactful when you don't even take Lethal Tempo, as it will result in a low DPS even with decent items provided that the enemies are fed. This doesn't mean that taking Lethal Tempo will solve your issues or even that it will have a positive effect given your playstyle, but what you need is good teammates Early Game Oppression: Lower than Draven, nor did you create an advantage with your long attack range. Don't say that their jungler ganked so you lost, because obviously vision control and wave manipulation would have helped in that regard. Note that this is easier said than done, but is still a mandatory procedure to not getting destroyed. This also scales with the skill level and champion type of your support, as even Draven cannot win in a 1v2 against an Ignite Leona whilst having xp being stolen, if lux throws her abilities backwards.

You're not always going to have good teammates, but keep in mind that you also have your own bad games occasionally. And if it seems like your team always has more bad players than the enemy team, take into account the simple mathematics of your team having 4 people having a probability of x% of feeding/being afk/playing bad you get my point, whereas on the enemy team there are 5 people that have an x% chance to feed/afk, and so assuming that you don't become a liability to your team or at least not as often as the average player, and carry at a rate more frequent than the average player, you will find yourself gradually having a 55% or higher winrate.

2Charmnot2Charm12/8/2019, 4:21:34 AM2 votes

Nothing, just like how one solo laner can’t do jack if all the other 4 players constantly die before 10 minutes.

WoonStruck12/8/2019, 4:28:33 AM2 votes

What can you do as a mid lane if jungle feeds?

What can you do as a top lane if bot lane feeds?

If any lane feeds, you're pretty much screwed unless you got a similar or greater lead in your own lane.

Sirsir12/8/2019, 5:13:47 AM2 votes

Same thing as any other lane when every lane feeds, cry in a corner

FioraWillCarry12/8/2019, 4:27:33 AM1 votes

WTF can you even do as ADC if every other lane feeds?

Surrender.

Seriously, why do people not know when a game is just not winnable?

Crescent Dusk12/8/2019, 5:41:02 AM1 votes

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Title. Just played a game where every lane other that bot and jg was just hard feeding.

Teemo top was 1/5 by 5 minutes.

Yasuo mid 1/7 by 5 minutes. I stay under tower with support, but enemy jungler is so far ahead (I.E at 10 minute, Quinn btw) that they just one shot us under tower. Yi gets a kill, but that's it the whole game. End 0/6/0, literally had no opportunity to do anything the entire game. Teemo and Yasuo keep pushing in waves and dying to ganks.

Is there anything I can do in situations like this? Because I wasn't pushing up or doing anything, just sitting and farming under tower but still died. At that point is it just GG go next, or is there a way to recover if you're not ahead of enemy bot lane (we were even at that point)?

Welcome to jungle. 3 losing lanes, all blame you for not being able to win lane on their own and then say jg difference because you didn't get dragon when all of them can't get lane prio worth a damn or rotate to river.

AFilthyCaitMain12/8/2019, 5:42:12 AM1 votes

Dont throw wood on the fire by dying yourself. Take safe plays. Other than that, if you lose then just move next. not much you could have done.

p3tm4ster12/8/2019, 4:24:47 AM1 votes

The truth is there's nothing you can do, in the current meta there are very few champs that can "solo carry" and even the ones that can get outscaled eventually, so the best you can do is find 4 people who are pretty good and always que with them, because solo que is a crapshoot.

Caretaker Jack12/8/2019, 9:27:25 PM1 votes

Wtf can you do as anything when all the other lanes lose?

Typically, you ask yourself "How much better is our scaling than theirs?" And play accordingly.

For instance. If you have a useless soraka, anivia, Zac and Tryndamere all behind... That's not a done deal. You can stall for a select individual and end up being pretty damn strong off scaling despite them being bad.

But If you got a feeding Olaf, off meta top laner, and a zed all losing then you should probably just mash mute, open your lane, and fish for kills and objectives in their area. The idea is to rush the game by forcing plays that either cheese your team objectives or speed up the inevitable loss.

Inkling Commando12/8/2019, 9:34:35 PM1 votes

feed with them lol

vgamedude12/9/2019, 6:11:39 PM1 votes

You realize your lane is all that matters? Do you know what its like playing garen, darius etc against a fed adc? Or a mage when you have to actually land abilities while they just auto you and kill you with undodgeable attacks?