Ummm...can we nerf Nocturne?

pwc2016·11/29/2019, 12:27:38 AM·9 votes·1,674 views

Currently, Nocturne is a 3 position flex pick.

I mainly have an issue with him in the jungle.

I think his W is pretty unfair.

His W gives him a free spell shield. I don't think this is an issue in and of itself, it's a fine ability on its own. Sivir has it, and I'm cool with it. But Nocturne gets a free 30% AS steroid out of it.

His E gives him some free CC, if he stays within range.

And his passive gives him a free Tiamat (most of the time), along with Bonus Damage and Healing.

Now, my issue is not really with these abilities except for his W. It's his kit in general and how it synergizes.

It is practically impossible to 1 v 1 this champion. He is supposed to power farm till 6. You should have a clear window to beat him. Instead, he often easily wins any jungle 1 v 1 even against "early game" jungle champions. His W gives him a free shield that blocks critical damage/abilities from any enemy and gives him enough AS to easily get more damage in than the enemy jungler. He also has his passive which heals and deals a little extra damage. On top of this he STILL has his W, so he can easily block any incoming spell, auto you, CC you, and you just die. What counterplay is there to this? Well, don't fight him early. Ok, that would make sense-but he's a level 6 power jungler. He's not supposed to be that strong early game. I dont' know why a "late game" champion has access to so much early-I would honestly rather face a good Elise/Lee Sin/Olaf than Nocturne, because at least there is something I can do. I really don't see how this champion is fair in the jungle, he wins any duels too easily, has a great clear, and scales really well especially with ult. Needs a nerf imo; Riot hated Pyke in 3 lanes, so why is Nocturne ok?

10 Comments

ImGoingScotty11/29/2019, 12:32:46 AM4 votes

He's very squishy and countered by hard cc.. there's nothing wrong with him, especially compared to older versions.

FioraWillCarry11/29/2019, 1:11:10 AM3 votes

You know, using hyperbolic statements like you did can make any champ seem overpowered. Nocturne is one of the most balanced champions in League.

You want to complain about broken champions here's a list:- Yasuo Tryndamere DrMundo Katarina Akali Ekko Caitlyn

HashJus12/5/2019, 11:42:42 AM3 votes

People are downvoting you, but give it a month and everyone will be complaining about this. I don't know why these people shill so hard. It is blatantly obvious Nocturne+Sanguine is overpowered as hell.

R0ses R Red11/29/2019, 12:57:32 AM2 votes

Nocturne isn't a late game champion. He's early-mid game. Late game is his weakest point, but I agree that he needs nerfs/reworking.

Dr Endeavor12/27/2019, 2:06:31 PM2 votes

Just won a match against an enemy noct as WW. Can't remember the last time I died 10+ times while being ahead. Every fight he would just go right to me and maul me to death. I'm not really complaining since I was soaking up his attention for my team... but it was unreal how much damage he did with my E reduction still on.

JoshTGW12/27/2019, 1:30:47 PM1 votes

Nocturne is more than likely gonna receive substantial nerfs before the release of season 10. This character, playing against him in jungle or lane does NOT lose or rarely ever does. Some people here are saying his early game is good but his late game is bad, its neither, he's powerful all around. Balanced is a good word for some champions in League of Legends, but it does not apply to Nocturne. Ever since the changes to Sanguine Blade and lethality items in general, he's been far too powerful. Even without them he's a seriously oppressive force that does not die. He can heal for way too much and cannot be easily killed. This character is an overloaded assassin that can shred tanks as if they were never there.

Nocturne is in dire need of some substantial balance changes:

  1. Lifesteal
  2. Attack Damage
  3. Ability Cool-downs These need to be addressed with the character or else he'll tear up the jungle and the top lane come season 10 leaving the meta stale and always in favor of whomever plays him.
Kroda1312/27/2019, 2:28:17 PM1 votes

If anything he needs a buff