It Amazes me that Mordekaiser is not getting a change in 9.24

pwc2016·12/5/2019, 5:21:43 AM·5 votes·2,862 views

How is Morde not getting nerfed in 9.24?

It makes 0 sense. Mordekaiser has the 3rd higest winrate top in the game, and the highest mid.

According to u.gg, across all ranks, Morde mid has a 55.37% winrate and Morde top has a 53.3% winrate.

Garen has a 53.7% winrate across all ranks. Why is he getting nerfed but not Morde?

Look, I know there's gonna be someone saying "but they're not that good high elo because they're simple champions. Harder champions get better the higher you climb and easy champs get worse.". Oh really? Because Morde top has a 54% winrate top lane in Challenger.

Look, I don't like this champion. He's boring to play and play against.

The fact is, I think they totally screwed him over into Kalista territory with his rework.

He's a juggernaut/AP bruiser. That's fine, I don't mind. My issue is his ult. Morde builds item 3116 to make sure he can get on top of enemies. This seems fair. Other AP bruisers often don't have a good engage. Vlad has to build item 3152 to get a good engage. Ryze has no reliable engage except his speed up from procing 2 Q's to activate his runes (yes he gets a speed boost from that). Singed has to run next to you and/or ult in order to actually do anything to you.

Morde's ult is just too much and will never be balanced, and that's one of the issues with his kit.

Right now, he takes 10% of all of his opponent's stats. I really see this as pretty broken. For a champion that wants to 1 v 1, I don't get why they make it so easy to do so. Yes, it can be countered by item 3140. I know lots will say "well, if Skarner ult makes you just as useless, then why don't you complain about that?". Because Skarner isn't great in a 1 v 1 scenario, and he has to get in 350 range, which is pretty short. He's a jungle tank, so he's even less of a threat than a regular tank. Skarner doesn't want to 1 v 1 me, and he also doesn't gain an automatic steroid to his stats.

The way I see it, Morde ult either:

  1. Is broken because the stats he gets put him in such a better position to 1 v 1 anyone that there's rarely a way to beat him unless he ults you when you are high health and he his low, and even then his giant shield means he can still kill you while absorbing most of your damage. His ult simply gives him a bruiser's wet dream-not only does it give him automatic access to any target he wants, he also gets a huge advantage by stealing the stats, making him un 1 v 1 able for the entire duration. He automatically becomes viable because he's a better assassin. Why play Zed or Akali to pick off one enemy in a fight when you can have a Mord just ult someone and automatically win (note: Vlad does a similar thing where he's an "AP bruiser", but he plays like an assassin, and kill fare more than one target. Vlad is somewhat problematic, but that's not the current point of the post), along with being far safer due to building lots of HP and having a massive shield? He's just so much safer and nearly guarantees that an enemy will die. Not only this, but he can just force an enemy jungler out of smite. He's so much more useful than any assassin.

  2. Is useless. Even though he can 1 v 1 anyone, without the stats, he has to be ahead in order to have a significant advantage. He becomes a "no jungler smite" bot by ulting enemy junglers and is just useless because his ult is such a defining part of the current kit.

I think the rework honestly failed. He's less interesting to play. He's too strong, especially with new Conqueror (he doesn't care about losing the 8% true damage in any scenario. The extra AP and healing is far better on him). The biggest problem is that he has 0 skill expression.

8 Comments

Diopsideˆ12/5/2019, 6:59:31 AM4 votes

I agree with OP, the funniest part about Morde, literally u can build anything on him, u will still deal damage, sustain and tank some incoming damage.

Darn it nerf this abomination.

Frostfel12/5/2019, 6:31:04 AM1 votes

I agree that he can be frustrating to play against, but no more than Darius or hell even using your example Skarner. Darius has true damage execute, Skarner has suppression ult. Yes Skarner's ult is much lower range, but it is also a total suppression. Morde's ult allows you move to do things still so it having a bigger range makes sense. He also does poorly into super tanky champions like Sion who just out scale him bad. Hell a super hard counter is Gangplank, eats an orange gets out of his ult, has better range with barrels. If you let Morde get up on you or get hit by his pull then yeah he is going to ruin you, but you still have options into him, high mobility, cc, immunity ruin his ult making it useless. Even more so towers can still hit him in his ult. The reason he hasn't gotten nerfs is because of the large amount of counter play against him. Also take in mind that Riot doesn't balance champions around that, such as Morde is good against X, Y, and Z champs so he must be nerfed. He would need to have reduced counter play/be good in almost all situations to be nerfed.

And while I never like to admit it, Riot does balance around high elo/pro play and Morde isn't seen as much as other champions. Maybe with new conquer he will, but right now its kind of a wait and see.

Edit: Also from what I'm seeing he is sitting at roughly 52%

https://na.op.gg/champion/mordekaiser/statistics/top

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/mordekaiser

Dope Solo12/5/2019, 6:26:28 PM1 votes

Better nerf Kassadin.

ThisName1sDumb12/6/2019, 12:29:36 AM1 votes

Even more than let Morde get on top of enemies, item 3116 let's him stay on top of enemies. He's definitely strong right now, and I'll be playing him quite a bit next patch I think.

NodirjonSattarov12/6/2019, 3:39:53 AM1 votes

Ryze has no reliable engage except his speed up from procing 2 Q's

Ryze can proc his Q MS steroid by applying E-flux 2 times to anything, then pressing Q.