Please update Tryndamere

pwc2016·1/4/2020, 10:37:00 PM·55 votes·15,143 views

There is nothing fun or fair about facing this champion.

He gets free crit from AA. So, good luck if you try to step up for CS against him, he'll just E onto you at level 2 with 100% fury and either force you to B or kill you. I was Ornn with Bramble Vest versus Trynd with Doran's Blade and I had to flash to make sure he didn't kill me.

His sustain is pretty insane as well, considering he's resourcelss. And he has an AD reduction effect on his W. His E is also up super fast once he hits any number of crits. His ult is super fucking aggravating, since he can just take a trade that almost kills both players and then turn it into a kill because he can't die during ult.

49 Comments

Jimmy Rustles1/4/2020, 10:47:21 PM12 votes

Yea, he should get 2 swords so he attacks twice as fast

Monstermushmush1/5/2020, 4:43:11 AM7 votes

I play him a lot. He's so fun for me, but when I play against trynd, I feel so helpless. I agree. He needs some changes.

Cloud2731/5/2020, 1:17:05 AM5 votes

He's also the only champ who has access to FULL DAMAGE crits (unlike Yasuo) at level 1 now. Now that brawler's gloves is gone no one else can get crit this early.

VelvetCrotch1/5/2020, 1:57:01 PM4 votes

Yeah Trynd has one one the most toxic designs. Even he was one of my first champs with Naut I played when I first started League I never really touched him again.

He is boring to play (like Yi and Garen) and unfun and sometimes even toxic to play against

QuZeed YT1/5/2020, 4:28:11 PM4 votes

I think the only champion that deserves Aatrox's fate on being delete is Tryndamere..

Bronze 6 Yasuo1/5/2020, 1:26:06 AM4 votes

just remove the cd reduction for his e from crits and i think he should be balanced

ContDeCaterinca11/6/2020, 9:51:50 AM3 votes

Facing him early game is managable if he doesn't kill you at lv 1 or 2. Just harrass and keep him at low fury, he won't have damage to beat most toplaners.

But he shouldn't be able to spin onto people every 2 auto attacks late game, period. That's truly mindless.

Garen is adopted1/5/2020, 11:10:09 AM3 votes

dont forget he get 25 AD per 1% missing health.

Woodakoodashooda1/5/2020, 4:22:55 PM2 votes

Tryndamere is well below Riot's scope of giving a crap because almost no one in high elo plays him and he is almost never played by pros.

He is a cancerous monster in low elo solo queue and a giant steaming turd above and beyond gold.

He is a mistake that Riot chooses to ignore.

in a hood near u1/5/2020, 12:13:13 PM2 votes

Yes trynd is a little strong right now, but still if you're losing fights as a tank with bramble vest while he has dblade you're not cut out for top lane. You clearly don't know what you're doing while fighting trynd, and that kinda makes your analysis about him and his balance worthless. Besides your post is just summarizing his spells and trying to make them sound op, you haven't given any good reasons to believe you and you've given plenty not to.

Violet Fields1/5/2020, 12:50:41 PM2 votes

One thing that could give him some counterplay is making his dash not so spontaneous like it is now. Like, pretty much every single champion in the laning phase with an instant cast dash does a combo and then backs out. (Shen, Renekton, Riven) And champions with delayed dashes do some sort of dps to compensate (Urgot, Ornn, Vi). But Tryndamere? Nope, he gets it all. They really need to change that.

Jax has an instant cast "dash" but at least he's given no sustain in his kit as a result of making a bad decision. That healing on Tryndamere just makes the entire gameplay uninteractive.

I agree Tryndamere needs a rework, the problem is, I don't think Riot knows what to do with him.

Kadexe1/5/2020, 9:42:42 PM2 votes

I'd love to see a rework to him (he's as bad as the old Akali or worse IMO) but I don't expect it to happen soon since a lot of people play him.

FakeGravity1/5/2020, 3:03:18 PM1 votes

he is probably getting a rework after fiddlestick, he is just a stat stick like mundo where you either can survive him while his ult is on and kill him or you dont, it would take teemo perfect timing of his blind, and zhonya to actually kill him and survive at all, and teemo blind should be the strongest counter to an all autos champion, that should tell you something

Snowbrand1/5/2020, 11:40:46 AM1 votes

He can be broken as a splitpusher and 1v1,but useless at everything else. HE definitely needs a VGU this year

NelsieLisnen1/5/2020, 10:40:31 AM1 votes

He should get a SUPAAH SAYAJIN POWAH APPU.

Jabriel1/5/2020, 6:14:04 PM1 votes

Yes update tryndamere. Buff Tryndamere's left arm so he can carry 2 swords for x2 attack speed

LegacyDAP1/5/2020, 6:33:04 PM1 votes

How'd you lose as Ornn? lmfao.

Also bramble vest sucks against Trynd stop taking it. He doesn't heal in combat.

Evidence1/5/2020, 9:10:34 PM1 votes

take nasus vs him,build armor,cdr,mana and u win after u stack 200 stacks. Also it depends on trynda player,if his experianced player,there is no way u can win or outplay him. most of trynda here in high gold,low plat are mostly bad,but now and then,comes a good trynda and fuks u over and wins,so ye,depends.

US Marine E5 B31/7/2020, 2:13:46 AM1 votes

trynd is the champion of noobs! and the noobs would tell you "he takes skills"

Literally his whole kits is about luck..

Early game i see all this videos with tryndamere otp acting pro

saying

"omg dude i didnt crit many times that why he win man otherwise i would have win"

Like their whole "skill" is if the luck favor them

And that the biggest issue with tryndamere early game what the outplay to luck?

So that why his passive need to be reworked to extra damage like if you full your fury you get 35% extra damage that lasts for 4 seconds

So he dosent always have his fury up like all champions with fury and this would add skill and outplay potential and he would still be able to build crit and benefit from it so he would have a window that he can use his fury to maximize trades as for his Q he would have to choose he would use his extra damage for healing or for extra damage? that would put his sustain on check of his Q now would have a small AD ratio on his healing so when he choose to heal he would get some good heals..but he would lose the extra damage

And now when his ulti gives fury would actually mean something cause right now the fury that you get after lvl 11 mean pretty much nothing...

There you go riot in 4 minutes typing this post i make tryndamere balanced...and you dont know what to do with him for 10 years now?

Too busy selling skins i guess

8 Lamar Jackson1/5/2020, 11:12:34 PM1 votes

Tryn is too easily beaten to need a rework/nerf. Now Pyke,or these other overloaded champs and that is a different story.

FCJAAAAGOOOO1/5/2020, 4:39:53 AM1 votes

butt le hurt

No seriously Tryndamere is the one champion you play around early. If you aren't a threat to him you have no business being in a solo lane.

Mos Deadly981/6/2020, 4:32:12 PM1 votes

you want to see another rengar? Cause thats how you see another rengar. Besdies tryndamere isnt that strong hes just frusterating to play aginst when the trynds good.

The JigSAW1/6/2020, 4:40:57 PM1 votes

You know how Riot always shoves "counterplay" down our throats about being a requirement for a balanced champion?

Where's the counterplay for somebody who can't die for five seconds? I'm fine with the rest of the kit as is, just the ult that prevents death even if he's under a turret with no minions hacking away and just spins off and heals for 300+ health.

go6unatora1/6/2020, 6:48:33 PM1 votes

I've been getting matched against players with literally zero brain function and playing tryndamere. I end up getting thornmail and randuin but still i die like i dont own those items. The fact that he can go in to trade with at least 2 players, ult and have consistent E due to his 100% crit chance is ridiculous.

Shadowwalker1/6/2020, 10:41:58 PM1 votes

I think they ought to be stripping all the rest of the AA champs and reworking them. Like they did Aatrox.

EATARI1/5/2020, 2:49:25 PM1 votes

In my opinion, the issue isn’t actually with Tryndamere himself, but instead how critical strike is designed. Crits are unreactable randomness that can spontaneously win or lose trades in their own right. On top of that, it makes farming much more difficult due to inconsistent auto damage. Don’t get me wrong, I do think Tryndamere is a bit of a stat check champion with little depth beyond timing your ult and heal. But I think critical strike needs to be looked into as a stat before Trynd gets a rework. Personally, I think crit should change from a percent chance for double AA damage to a flat percent increase for AA damage. As an example, if you had 25% critical strike and 200AD, attacks would always deal 250 damage, instead of either 200 or 400 randomly. Anyways, mini-speel over. I think I already made a thread on the subject, so I’ll just close now.

TLDR; Tryndamere is unfun and inconsistent in lane due to the nature of critical strike itself and not his kit. Before radically altering his identity as a champion, critical strike requires a rework first.