is riots balancing team bronze 5 or in what elo is shyvanas early game good?
Shyvana Twin Bite (Q) second hit's % of AD bonus physical damage lowered to 40/55/70/85/100% from 80/85/90/95/100%
Burnout (W) no longer deals extra 20% damage vs monsters.
try picking shyvana in an elo where people know what jungling is and try surviving through the first 5 minutes of the game
Now I know why riot is never hard nerfing champs like fiora... nobody in the elo where their balancing team plays has enough mechanical skill to play those champs so they cant see how overpowered she is
also they wonder why shyvana is strong when players in their elo don't know what counterjungling is
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shyvana > fiora - riots bronze 7 balancing team 2016
I am a shyvana jg main in diamond 2 and one of the top shyvanas on LoLskill. You're out of your mind if you think shyvana isn't way too strong atm. The nerfs hurt the first clear but after that her clear is so good I don't think they'll matter. And she'll still become a god once she finishes sated + titanic that 3 shots the adc. She has the highest jg winrate ffs lol.
Well considering she's the best-performing jungler in the game at the moment...
So first Riot nerfs devourer, and then nerfs Shyvanas AD ratio on her Q to make her unable to go warrior (Which is purely a fun build anyways), and then they lower her clear speed massively with the w?
Jesus christ Riot, wtf is wrong with you. Just do the W nerf to make her clear speed on par with everyone else or only the Q nerf, doing both AND nerfing devouer is absolutely insane.
Just so you guys know, Shyvana is the highest winrate jungler in the game with a very high playrate. The nerfs are to make her early game weaker so enemy junglers can punish her in rotations, counterganks and invades. As it is right now, she reaches Titanic Devourer and starts dealing very high amounts of damage. At this point she can no longer be dueled and she gains a massive objective control simply off of her own presence. As per Rito's balance strat, they accentuate weaknesses rather than take away strengths.
Besides, if you main Shyv, this won't affect you too much. You can adapt your playstyle. I already have a few ideas on how to do that.
Yeah, kind of aggressive before even taking a look at if the rift herald change knock her down a few pegs
I think Shyvana has quite good early game dueling, I gained a lot of first bloods on river when stealing 1st scuttle from enemy jungler. But what the fck, this is goddamn Olafing. Btw, out of all farming junglers that are OP, Master Yi, Xin Zhao, Jax... they nerf Shyvana? Fucking Shyvana??? Are they fcking high on something?
You know the 'bros before hoes' thing?
Well, Riot's got a similar one. Champs before items. The problem with Shyvana is Devourer and its synergy with the items she uses. Double proccing Titanic's passive is a whole new level of bs.
Welp, time to start on Gromp instead of Krugs.
The whole point of Shyvana having no gap closer is to allow her to be an extremely powerful duelist. Instead of having a weak early game and catastrophic lategame like 
, she consistently has great clearing and damage, but no way to get to her target. Udyr is pretty similar. He's never weak, just kiteable.
Seriously it feels like Riot is 100% Bronze 5. If you let a Shyvana get to you, there's something wrong with your team comp or you don't ward.
Q is not halfed, only the 2nd hit is reduced. But it is an ability she best max last so combined they're a bit of a steep nerf.
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is riots balancing team bronze 5 or in what elo is shyvanas early game good?
Shyvana Twin Bite (Q) second hit's % of AD bonus physical damage lowered to 40/55/70/85/100% from 80/85/90/95/100%
Burnout (W) no longer deals extra 20% damage vs monsters.
try picking shyvana in an elo where people know what jungling is and try surviving through the first 5 minutes of the game
"lets nerf shyvana instead of just nerfing the items that are actually the problem(
)"
feels very strongly about this.
lets put another champion into garbage tier because riot doesn't want to nerf oppressive items that crowd out builds and ruin games.
do you not remember what jungle shyvana was like without the 20% damage boost to monsters? it was substantially worse, clears took much longer, she could clear maybe krugs red and wolves if she got a really good leash.
and nerfing her q? please. her q has NEVER been the problem. sated coupled with the % health damage per aa on her e is the problem.
the only way shyvana successfully ganks you before 6 is if you're overpushed
TL;DR STOP CALLING FOR NERFS ON OTHERWISE HEALTHY CHAMPIONS AND JUST NERF THE REAL PROBLEM WHICH IS SATED DEVOURER AND GUINSOO'S
to be fair it is an auto reset, and maxing q on her doesn't hurt. but 40 does seem a bit harsh.
Shyvana hardly cares about the AD ratio on Q anyways. It's all about that double on hit proc and that part remains.
