so yorick can really dragon at lv3

Rustling Bush·Mar 2, 2015·1 votes·412 views

so i was a bit skeptical about yorick being a good jungler since hes pretty much forgotten champion. i tested it out in bots and not only can he clean camps with almost full hp i was also able to solo dragon at lv 3 with no very little damage done, my ganks (and i know bots ai arent the best) but shesh that damage is quite good. do you think yorick is sleeper op?

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TalamareMar 2, 20151 votes

Sleeper OP?

Yorick is blatently OP at low levels

His problem was never if he was strong or weak Its that he has bad team fight abilities, no CC and ghosts are significantly weaker in aoe heavy teamfights Also a lacking late game

EvilMerodachMar 2, 20151 votes

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Sleeper OP?

Yorick is blatently OP at low levels

His problem was never if he was strong or weak Its that he has bad team fight abilities, no CC and ghosts are significantly weaker in aoe heavy teamfights Also a lacking late game

Sorry mang, kind of disagree with everything wrong with Yorick from your description. Bad team fights? Depends on who you have on your comp. Having 2 Ashes AA'ing from the back line can wreck a team fast, and discourage divers from taking them out..as they'll still dish out more damage after dead. Or 2 yi's, or 2 trynd's..or...yeh, there's a good amount of choices for the ulti..as long as they have high AD and most of their damage is AA's. No CC? W is ground targeted 40% AOE slow, that even if you wiff it (how can you wiff an instant ground targeted AOE skill? I donno..but..even if you do,) it finds targets for you and still slows them. No it's not Leona tier CC, but pretty far from 'no cc.' 3rd point is ok. Ghost tend to just do whatever they're gonna do, and unless it's in a 1v1, most of the time it's just better off to let them die off then actively try to kill them, so yeh, some AOE damage will sometimes happen to kill them while also still hurting your team. But even still, AOE comps or lineshot skills that deal less damage for each target hit after the 1st, Yorick ghost can be awesome for, they're free skillshot blockers even when you're fighting away from lanes/minions. Lacking late game? He scales really well into late game and can be a REALLY good front line pusher, though should probably try to end game before 40mins or so.

Yorick's biggest problem is awkwardly timed power spikes, mana problems that fixes, but I feel like / isn't super great on him (though required cause nothing else will fix his mana problems without a lot of wasted gold/stats) and Yorick being fairly alone in the...'AD melee caster bruiser' category? (Olaf might be his friend down there..but..not many others) and game kind of lacks items that fit well for an 'AD melee caster bruiser' since..there's not many of them. He's got decent builds, but all sort of lack synergy with his kit. Or have far less synergy than someone else using the same items. And being heavily item reliant to stay useful late game, it's really hard to itemize and stay on top of things.

He could be a really good Shyvana style jungler, power farm till late game, only countergank or help lanes out when they're getting pressured hard. Build huge stack of gold and out item/level everyone and wreck people before they catch up. But his pre-6 lane ganks are meh, too short range, no gap closer. And his level 6 gank is probably the worst in game...unless your goal is to gank a tower and kill it before the Revenant dies, but someone's gotta be winning a lane pretty hard to make that happen.

Also I feel like none of the jungle items OR smite upgrades fit him very well. Chill smite? His W slows for more and has almost the same range. Challenging Smite? He's not really bursty enough to take full advantage of it, and they're probably not going to target you 1st so the 20% reduced incoming damage isn't gonna help much. Blasting Smite? Yes, that's probably what I'd go with, but it's overkill, like Summoner Grey said, he already sustains and clears really well, you don't need the aeo smite clear. And Scavenging Smite is just troll levels of bad right now, I don't think anyone should get it ever..

Upgrades? Probably warrior is best, but I feel his 1st power spike isn't tuned very well for the early game damage investment. Juggernaut might be 'ok' too, but he doesn't scale too well with HP, but it would free up boots to not go even if enemy is high cc. Magus: lolnope. Devourer? I feel like you're gonna have to afk farm way too long for it to be better than warrior considering Yorick's attack speed sucks and he has no steroid skill for it. And you're already gonna be afk farming a lot even if you go with the faster/earlier damage of warrior.

Tl;DR: I feel like he'll stay sorta sleeper decent jungler till they make item 3711 good enough to be viable. Then he might be OP as F$%k till they nerf him/poacher again, lol