"This isnt ranked, I just play for fun, dont be a tryhard!" Translation: "My fun is more important than anyone elses fun, so if i ruin your game because I want to play full AD Soraka deal with it!"
Ok so you dont want others to have fun if it takes the fun away from others. So are not you doing that aswell then? You dont want them to have fun because you want to have fun. So you want to take their fun away.
Double standards OP?
I am always the first who accepts to go support when everyone is calling roles like their life depends on it. Most games I fill.
And your stupid comment is basicly comparing not getting the football position you want to taking the ball in your hands because you prefere to play American Football.
Why are you telling me that, you want me to pity you for not being able to play what you want because "meanies are calling roles and i need to be the saint here"? And my stupid comment was calling out your retarded double standards. I just stated what kind of picture you are giving away from yourself. "Everyone else is wrong, how I play the game is right"
The "meta" is made up. It's a mess of the things that are the most consistent, strongest, strongest in the past 8 patches, found out by the pros, hard mained by a single celebrity, enjoyable to play, theoretically speculated, offspring of pure ignorance of the game's mechanics (which are not a player's mechanics, that should rather be called "technique" like in every other field) and circlejerk-generated beliefs.
To a certain extent yes, but there are some things that are pretty constant in 'meta' (at least here in NA, other regions do have differences in meta-game strategey).
For example, the tradition of having the duo lane be bot lane arose because it provides better control of dragon than a solo lane. ADC's usually go in the duo lane because they typically are easy to kill, but they can afford to share XP due to being more gold dependent for late game damage. Assassins and mages usually go mid because the shorter distance between the turrets means they can escape better if they need to run. Fighters and tanks tend to go solo top because they can't afford to share the experience most of the time, but are generally better at staying alive than assassins and mages. Junglers are usually tanks, fighters or assassins because those three roles are usually the best for ganking and clearing jungle camps.
Keeping this all in mind, it's easy to understand many of the 'off-meta' picks that work well: Kassadin is seen almost exclusively top lane because he's beefier than most other assassins. Varus is played mid often because he has no escape other than just running or using flash. Nasus get's played on a serious level in top lane or jungle, because he needs to stack his Q, and trying to farm in mid or bot lane is a very risky proposition early game.
"This isnt ranked, I just play for fun, dont be a tryhard!" Translation: "My fun is more important than anyone elses fun, so if i ruin your game because I want to play full AD Soraka deal with it!"
This is very true
Off-meta builds shouldn't be as bashed as they are. Ok, full AD Soraka makes no sense in terms of scaling so that can get genuinely annoying (at best it'll drag out the game). (Apparently someone managed to pull off pre-buff Devourer Soraka at some point but that's another story) If someone wanted to try out hybrid Corki, 40% CDR lucian, AP bruiser Ekko or sending a support to a solo lane, where else would they do it?
Off-meta builds shouldn't be as bashed as they are. Ok, full AD Soraka makes no sense in terms of scaling so that can get genuinely annoying (at best it'll drag out the game). (Apparently someone managed to pull off pre-buff Devourer Soraka at some point but that's another story) If someone wanted to try out hybrid Corki, 40% CDR lucian, AP bruiser Ekko or sending a support to a solo lane, where else would they do it?
One time we in bot lane went AD Fiddle and support TF. It was hilarious, we carried that game. Would we do that in ranked, no.
Agreed, just because something is off-meta doesn't mean it's bad. I get yelled at sometimes for taking TP Clarity on Karrthus mid, and then people realize that because of that, I have an exponentially stronger presence in lane. On those same lines, I've seen people get called trolls for all of the following, and then proceed to carry their team: AD Malzahar (his voidlings scale off of his AD, so even just putting a manamune on an AP Malzahar actually makes him exponentially more powerful). AP Miss Fortune (Make it Rain scales off of AP, although this worked better before her rework). Zed ADC + Shen Support bot lane (this is heavily dependent on the enemy team comp) Pantheon ADC + Leona Support bot lane (again, dependent on the enemy team comp, but less so than Zed+Shen) Volibear Support (one of my friends does this from time to time, it's absolutely hilarious, but only works when the enemy doesn't have any hard CC) Taric Jungle (You have to be really good at both Taric and jungling to pull this off).
Agreed, just because something is off-meta doesn't mean it's bad. I get yelled at sometimes for taking TP Clarity on Karrthus mid, and then people realize that because of that, I have an exponentially stronger presence in lane. On those same lines, I've seen people get called trolls for all of the following, and then proceed to carry their team: AD Malzahar (his voidlings scale off of his AD, so even just putting a manamune on an AP Malzahar actually makes him exponentially more powerful). AP Miss Fortune (Make it Rain scales off of AP, although this worked better before her rework). Zed ADC + Shen Support bot lane (this is heavily dependent on the enemy team comp) Pantheon ADC + Leona Support bot lane (again, dependent on the enemy team comp, but less so than Zed+Shen) Volibear Support (one of my friends does this from time to time, it's absolutely hilarious, but only works when the enemy doesn't have any hard CC) Taric Jungle (You have to be really good at both Taric and jungling to pull this off).
well since tic tac toe is basically decided on the first move, you might as well screw around. this is a terrible analogy maybe if it was chess but still there are wacky ways to play chess because people like to experiment. If you learn to enjoy all types of games you'll have more fun. People do need to relax its a game have fun with it, when you are putting people down cause they want to have fun, that's just sad you aren't losing anything.
woke up this morning to find that i have like 20 something notifications debating over the use of off-meta builds... the funny thing is that this wasn't what i originally wanted to point out, i kind of see where people spun the whole off-build tic-tac-toe analogy from but what i was really trying to say was don't use "this isn't rank" as a excuse for playing poorly, because its not fun for the other people on your team trying to enjoy it.
tl;dr YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING TO DEEP INTO A SILLY MEME
Happy that you're not a flaming metasheep. But don't be fooled, most people upvoted you thinking of that.
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Happy that you're not a flaming metasheep. But don't be fooled, most people upvoted you thinking of that.
to be fair, i don't care if someone plays someone vel'koz mid even though hes not meta currently but i draw the line at silly things like caitlyn jungle or something stupid like that, i'll ask why and if i'm not satisfied with the answer then i just leave the lobby (cause i only play teambuilder).
Vel'koz mid... a long ranged mage mid... off-meta... I'm out.
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Vel'koz mid... a long ranged mage mid... off-meta... I'm out.
sorry to say but yeah, hes not current meta, he exist in his own little niche and thats fine and all but its all about the mobility creep now and it has been for awhile, notice how the most popular and stronger champions are insanely mobile
you know the lcs big--plays cast. most of the newer champions come with some sort of low cd mobility to help them kite

, its practical a staple. except in the case of
where he was loaded up to be the tankiest champion in LoL and then some.
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Tic Tac Toe has a set of defined rules.
This example would be like if you took Fiddlesticks model, with a bunch of random abilities from other champions. It's breaking the core concept of the game. Or if you got up drove your car to another summoners house and destroyed their computer. It's not actually the game.
League has a set of defined rules, namely actions champions can physically do in the game, do you get angry at the dude in Tic Tac Toe who decides not to start the center square?
I clap for you good sir/madame
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league has 2 sets of rules. one is immutable and mechanically defined, the other is objective but abstract and subjectively adhered to AKA summoners code. if you aren't trying to win, you are breaking the second set of rules.
Wouldn't it be a Won set of rules EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~
I'll go kill myself now ;w;
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, he knew that it would crit
plot twist. he gave it crit so vayne could use it.
league has 2 sets of rules. one is immutable and mechanically defined, the other is objective but abstract and subjectively adhered to AKA summoners code. if you aren't trying to win, you are breaking the second set of rules.
"Trying to win" isn't as binary as some people make it out to be though. You can try to win and still not take it quite as serious. I definitely try to win my ARAMs... that doesn't mean that I won't play pure AP Blitzcrank every single time I get him. Personally, I won't even do that in normals; but I absolutely don't mind people trying out weird shit (be it builds, strategies or on-the-fly-decisions) in normals as long as they are genuinely trying to win.
AD BLITZ MASTER RACE GTFO
im not coming out against alt builds by any means. i was merely rebutting the ass hat that pretended like the only rules in league are immutable mechanics
if you dance in the middle of a game changing team-fight, you arn't following the rules, and no amount of "it isnt ranked, chill out bro" will keep you from being reported. thats all i was saying.
oh, and aram has special rules... a third set, if you will... the unwritten. if you try TOO hard you are breaking them.
AD BLITZ MASTER RACE GTFO
im not coming out against alt builds by any means. i was merely rebutting the ass hat that pretended like the only rules in league are immutable mechanics
if you dance in the middle of a game changing team-fight, you arn't following the rules, and no amount of "it isnt ranked, chill out bro" will keep you from being reported. thats all i was saying.
oh, and aram has special rules... a third set, if you will... the unwritten. if you try TOO hard you are breaking them.
Yeah, I was partially talking to OP at the same time. The thing is, there are a lot of situations in which someone might invoke the argument "it's just a game" or "this isn't ranked". And some are perfectly valid. I've seen people start raging and ultimately feeding because they didn't get their desired lane in a botgame. I've also seen AP Rivens in normals going "dude, it's just a game chill, lol :D". Personally, I try to aim for the middle.
I for one, love playing AD Blitz with AD Alistar bot lane. And AD Kassadin Jg.
Normal game mode is more casual then ranked. That doesn't mean that people should troll, feed, and not give a damn if they win or not, you should always play to win no matter what game mode you play! But it does mean that people can practice champions they are not good with, try new build and experiment otherwise in normal games. Not every player is a hardcore has to win type, there are many players that play to relax and enjoy the game and not get frustrated if they lose.
however, I have no desire to play an hour long 4v5 in normal cause "we can still win"
It doesn't really matter what you want, you're playing a team game. If you want to give up and ragequit whenever you feel like go play starcraft or some other single player game where your decisions to be a quitter don't negatively impact other people.
I shouldn't be held hostage though in a normal. I think we all understand that when you que up you're committing to a possible 30-50min game but when someone goes afk and we have that duo who won't ff because "we can still win" then I'm a little agitated. You don't always have to win.
nobody is holding you hostage you started the game your self play it out rather that then every one of your games getting cut early cause some one doesnt want to play anymore. if you dont want to play thats something you decide before you start the game not in the middle of a match. it show a lack of faith in yourself and your allies you can easily find people to play with who will quit with you when you want to quit just because you didnt snowball but quitting isnt how the matches are intended to play out
no one does, but it's still better to just play in a helpful manner to your team and not go off the rails and whine and then spam surrender, or feed the enemy team in hopes they win, or troll your team by telling the enemy team where you are. worst is if you start spamming chat "plz win i gtg" blah blah blah. try and have a little hope in your team and see if the enemy makes a mistake, but dont just give up on them and make it a 3v5
While I don't necessarily agree, it's definitely a funny representation of the stereotype. You've got an upvote from me.
league of legends has no rules, stop acting like this is lcs and we all have perfect communication and trained with eachother you twit.
I don't understand your comment. How does league of legends not have any rules. Care to elaborate on your comment?
I think that he means is that you can play league anyway you want. Personally, there is a fine line between, well I dont want to say trolling since Tank Karthus is a thing but, "trolling" and legitimately viable.
Yeah thats what i meant, you cant expect everyone to be super srs for the winz, some people try out new champs, some people have a bad day, some people get distracted. Its not the same level as 100% ultra focussed teamspeak experienced teamplay so thats the line between 'i play for fun' and 'I MUST WIN OR I WILL SLIT THE THROAT OF A CAT ON CAM' or something.
Raging at a funny post on a forum, that's a new one. What will flamers rage at next? Who knows?!?
You think this is rage? what..
Take notes here kids. If you don't take normals seriously, your body will turn into spaghetti.
you made my day! take an upvote
Lol naw. More like
: Scrub, WTF are you doing!!! Stop feeding OMG go kill yourself.
: I am trying the best I can. I am only 0/2/4, please stop.
: OMFG DUDE YOU SUCK, UNINSTALL AND NEVER PLAY AGAIN REPORT SONA BAN HER FOR LIFE
: Dude stop being such a bully. Its only normal, This isn't even ranked.
To be fair, that kind of behavior wouldn't really be acceptable in a ranked game either :P
I play/own a grand total of 14 champions.
Here's how I play them:
Top: Bard, Lulu, Teemo, Vladimir
Jungle: Lulu, Miss Fortune, Sona, (Finally, a way to benefit from the nerf "rework trade-offs") Teemo
Mid: Ahri, Annie, Bard, Leblanc, Lulu, Miss Fortune, Nami, Sona, Veigar, Vladimir
Adc: Jinx, Lulu, Miss Fortune
Support: Ahri, Annie, Bard, Leblanc, Lulu, Miss Fortune, Nami, Sona, Soraka, Teemo, Vel'koz, Vladimir (Only if the adc is Ashe)
I'm not playing ranked here, and I do play them with the intent to win, so I expect not to be flamed and being told I'm going to be reported over my choices.
I do, regardless of how I'm actually doing.
"THIS ISN'T RANKED."
I used to take every normal game seriously for the most part, then I started playing pretty much only ranked in school's league of legends club team. After playing so much ranked, I really didn't want to play seriously in normals anymore unless I wanted to learn something. (This doesn't mean that I play normals solo and just play troll champs and trolly builds, I only do that when I'm queuing up with friends). Overall though, I will agree that normals should be taken seriously in the sense that you decided to play the game and want to win it and as such you should be helping your team. In ranked, however, you should be giving both your normal effort plus an additional effort considering it counts onto your ranked record.