.0000000000001% chance of surviving a gank. 0 gap closers. Easily blink away from his ult. Cannot duel unless minions are around. And FINALLY...HIS PASSIVE IS ABSOLUTE GARBO. Sion can come back to life and become useless again!
Let's be honest, the old Sion was 10x better than this.
Keitron3 votesim with ya sion is garbage now his old ult could get baron easy and heal his team
NVDax3 votesPassive feels so worthless outside of lane... maybe if the person doesn't have any cc. That percent of health hurts so BAD
Creamy Seaman3 votesExactly. He is garbo.
2000boxes2 votesthe lies i've seen a sion land his ult before it was a max range ult and the yasuo he hit was ulting me the new sion saved my life
Creamy Seaman1 votesLOL his only use is being a useless body blocker. He looks lie he uses old spice.
Woook3r2 votesI think they should take the infinite scaling and give him three charged abilities. E can stun champs. Make him a CC heavy tank.
OxBaker2 votesHe is a bit on the weak side but not far off viable. Not sure what's the best move to fix him though. Maybe the ability to rotate the aim on his Q and a more effective passive?
Lord Malice2 votesYah his ult hitbox needs to be 2x bigger at least, and his Q needs 1/2 the wind up time with maybe 1/2 the damage to balance it, but sion can't 1v1 anyone ... its dumb
Jacht2 votesThe only change I want is to make his Q go off if he is interrupted while channeling. Bam, he's a monster.
CircusT4ffy1 votesThat would make it even more counter-intuitive to CC Sion. You want the CC thrown onto you so it isn't placed on someone else.
Use your Q as a threat to bait CC if the enemy does not want to be hit.
Though this would certainly help in certain lane match-ups... 
CircusT4ffy2 votesSion is not worthless. He is a powerful lane bully especially when first-bought items are either 
with the addition of pots. Think about how the enemy laner is going to face you.
His shield allows him to trade practically for free - and I start it in almost all of my games. Focus on farming, and trading with your shield.
To poke, don't use your Q. It costs to much mana for the damage you'll get. Instead use Roar of the Slayer to poke constantly, and if the enemy tries to trade; use your shield, then roar of the slayer and follow up with Q. Your burst should discourage them from facing you like a man.
Your Q should strictly be used to deny CS or try to catch someone when they go to last hit with a weak knockup. (Which can let you follow up with Roar of the Slayer and move in with your shield for even more poke.)
I rarely almost ever lose lane as Sion, and transition into an extremely powerful late game tank with 5500 - 6000 HP and powerful endless CC.
I consider his passive useful, though exclusively in teamfights. Nothing is worse than killing a tank to see him come back and beat down 2 squishies that are trying to fish for kills past your turret. Soon everyone will understand how Sions passive works and they will walk away, but until that day comes I will be just fine engaging like a loose cannon and taking several people with me. He is not supposed to be a duelist. Period.
New Sion is not bad at all. Yes he is awful 1v1 outside of lane but that's not his purpose. Sion is a full tank. The very definition of a full tank - at 1350 IP to get people into the ideas of full tanks. Noone tanks better than Sion. Others may bring more utility than Sion, but he is the buttered bread of tanks now. Designed to let people follow up extremely well and disrupt the enemy team from picking up kills.
Stop playing him straight up AD, start AP and go for tankiness after that.
is the only viable AD Item on Sion and it is meant for better splitpushing. Sion excels at splitpushing as long as you have your ultimate. His wave-clear is insane, especially with a Hydra you can demolish a wave with your 3 abilities and Hydras active in under a second. If anyone comes to gank you just pop your R and run back up the lane. Unless it was a very elaborate gank with 5 people all waiting for you to show up at the beginning of the lane you were pushing - they should have no answer for an Ultimate escape. If they pick you with a gank then, you should have a monstrous amount of HP - ping for your team to come and help you or ping for them to take an objective. One dead Sion is not worth a tower/inhib or dragon.
I have not played Jungle Sion but I imagine it's more difficult as it relies on hitting Roar of the Slayer, you have almost nothing after that. That's kind of the cost of playing Jungle Sion though. Gank through the lane with your ult or suffer an easy escape by the enemy. His best ganking partner would probably be Taric, but good luck having that in every game.
1011001110001 votesIf you can't land an ulti, then you don't know how to ulti on Sion. I land a good number of my ult ganks as Sion, and even then, you can cancel it early and use it as a tool to cut off escapes.
Also, a full Q is easy to land if you landed your ult.
SpecterVonBaren1 votesIf you can't land an ulti, then you don't know how to ulti on Sion. I land a good number of my ult ganks as Sion, and even then, you can cancel it early and use it as a tool to cut off escapes.
Also, a full Q is easy to land if you landed your ult.
Which might be a good argument if his Q had a base cd of 140 and his ult had a base cd of 10, but since they don't, the fact that one of his basic abilities can't be used to its full potential without his ultimate is pretty bad.
1011001110001 votesIf you can't land an ulti, then you don't know how to ulti on Sion. I land a good number of my ult ganks as Sion, and even then, you can cancel it early and use it as a tool to cut off escapes.
Also, a full Q is easy to land if you landed your ult.
Which might be a good argument if his Q had a base cd of 140 and his ult had a base cd of 10, but since they don't, the fact that one of his basic abilities can't be used to its full potential without his ultimate is pretty bad.
You're implying that you don't use the Q to clear jungle camps faster, to zone the enemy, or to simply apply a quick slow to catch someone. Face-checking a Sion is about as bad as face-checking a Garen - you only need to charge for 1 second to get the knock-up and stun, and any team with some CC (which is all of them) will help you land at least a half charged Q.
NightAdder1 votesNew sion isn't too bad. I rarely have problems landing ult. His Q needs shorter cast time doe and yah his passive is pretty much useless unless some newb stands there and takes it. Shorter cast on Q would make dueling better. Passive idk it just blows but other wise he's ok
1011001110001 votesNew sion isn't too bad. I rarely have problems landing ult. His Q needs shorter cast time doe and yah his passive is pretty much useless unless some newb stands there and takes it. Shorter cast on Q would make dueling better. Passive idk it just blows but other wise he's ok
His passive works better in teamfights, where it forces people out of position to avoid the %hp damage. Aside from you having ulted into them.
Knight SoIaire 1 votespros insane base dmg (comparable to adc's building their ad) insane tankyness (hp per lvl went down but its easily outshined by bigger health gain and shield scaling with that healts so sion is tankier than older sion) insane initiation (guys like kha zix will indeed jump away, but tristana will hardly make it, flash has 5 min cd while your ult will have 40 sec at lvl3 )
cons slow requires some decision making to actualy hit his skills and make them effective (how much can you charge your q, is it the good time to detonate shield, or if you are going to hit your ult if you ult form specific point)
verdict l2p this specific champion because he is awesome (lots of tankyness and lots of damage)
Raptamei1 votesProving once again that game design does not matter, all that matters is viability.
SoysauceBananna1 votesAgree with Circus.
Few things to add:
-His ult is also useful as part of a combo in 1v1 situations to add more cc. -About the passive: farm minions (I'm sometimes able to clear almost an entire wave depending on the opponent's harass), damage or destroy towers, also I believe ignite works while you are in passive. -Gank from the same lane and prepare your route, ping so your allies know you are coming so they can use cc. -Ganking mid when ults are up when you have Yasuo is nearly instakill. -I use ult to run from splitpush ganks, just do it the second you see them coming so they don't get in the way of it and stop you while you're in motion. -I've experimented with Jungle and it is a lot of fun. I land most of my ults by planning my routes early.