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TeemoJenkins85 votes

+1 for sloth meme

Shro0mie3 votes

{quoted}

+1 for sloth meme

this

Squarefighter61 votes

Ok so what if I'm adc and you're bard. Their sup is blitz, thresh, Leona, etc.

When you perma leave lane, I can't even stand in xp range, let alone cs. And when I inevitably get hooked/ulted/flashed onto/ganked/kalista gets an aa on to me and begins the Kalista train, I will die because you're not there. And then the boards community says I died because "I'm so cocky and toxic I tried to fight them 1v2".

TL;DR only roam when your lane can survive you roaming or you're going to lose the game.

cshakes21 votes

And please consider not picking Bard in such situations. His lane pressure is really weak.

Squarefighter6 votes

Yeah like the only time I can see him being a strong pick is when the enemy support is someone like Sona or Soraka and Bard's adc is ezreal, trist, or cait

Ariel the Cruel5 votes

Or in a a heavy roaming comp.

Ex:

  • Jungle: Rek'sai
  • Top: Shen
  • Mid: Zed
  • ADC: Sivir
  • Sup: Bard

Though pulling off a comp like that would mean you're already coordinated enough for Bard roaming to not be an issue.

Tin Tarantino1 votes

TF mid

Skoonie3 votes

It's a shame the only supports being played right now are ones with a lot of catch and kill potential. Bard is just plain bad in this meta.

Cale0172 votes

That's because the meta is more decided by early game than anything else right now. Midgame power spikes usually don't come fast enough to stop the advancement of an early game comp, and you have to survive for 30+ minutes for a lategame comp to become effective which, if you can, you're good to go. Assuming that in those 30+ minutes you haven't lost all nine of your turrets, and inhib, and a nexus turret to a team that's been riding an early advantage all match.

Undeadmerlin4 votes

{quoted}

Ok so what if I'm adc and you're bard. Their sup is blitz, thresh, Leona, etc.

When you perma leave lane, I can't even stand in xp range, let alone cs. And when I inevitably get hooked/ulted/flashed onto/ganked/kalista gets an aa on to me and begins the Kalista train, I will die because you're not there. And then the boards community says I died because "I'm so cocky and toxic I tried to fight them 1v2".

TL;DR only roam when your lane can survive you roaming or you're going to lose the game.

How would bard even help you in that situation in the first place, wouldnt he just die in your place and you would continue to QQ at him.

Jason Goldman11 votes

I understand what you are trying to say, but I feel like if Bard was in the lane, their team would not try to push as hard.

Squarefighter8 votes

Actually I totally disagree. Bard has a stun, a heal, aa harass, built in escape from his E, and very likely an exhaust to keep us alive or an ignite to prevent them from going super ham. If all else fails, any champ can always act as a meat shield for skill shots.

Besides, I would never QQ at a support in my lane who is at least trying to help out. Everyone has to through the learning phase/ has a bad game sometime. It's this Bard attitude of leaving forever and allowing me to fall dismally behind without even attempting to be useful that I hate.

LeeDark5 votes

Bard does have CC and ranged harass. You do know that, right? Bard players need to start using a checklist on whether or not they should leave the lane to roam.

  1. Is the ADC returning to base when I don't need to? Then Roam.

  2. Is the enemy low enough that engaging 2v1 will likely get one of them killed? Roam.

  3. Is our jungler nearby and has he shown the map awareness to respond to action close to his position? You can roam.

  4. Is the enemy incapable of towerdiving effectively and they are pushing up? Roam a little.

  5. Do you have your ult and are you pretty good at landing it from a distance? Sure, roam to max range because you can still protect your ADC from there in a pinch.

Basically, you should ALWAYS be asking yourself before you right click to the nearest bell, "Will my ADC be relatively safe from everything except his own stupidity?" If they can tower dive him, you don't leave. If they can easily chase him down, you don't leave. Too often I've seen Bard leave at the worst times and stay at the worst times. Guess what? You're Bard. If you are alone and they are pushing, you aren't going to save the tower. You don't have waveclear. You are probably better off using that opportunity to roam, and then you return to the lane when your marksman does.

That's not to say ADC's with Bard as a support don't act stupid sometimes. They do, but far more often, I see the Bard misplaying the situation and getting the ADC killed than I do the ADC TRYING to engage and fight outnumbered.

OyddAWqJ5r2 votes

Wow GG ADC can't even dodge hooks, so bad. Cuz you know, those hooks were designed to never land right?

Tin Tarantino1 votes

Probably wouldn't really matter if he was in lane in that situation, Bard isn't exactly great at disengage, I've had this happen on other supports though as well, was playing with a Soraka the other day that just sort of wondered off and I spent the rest iof the laning phase soloing bot as Ashe.

Totalis1 votes

Can I upvote this like, a million times?

Tentacle Love1 votes

If your support is not in lane, and you can't get near minions to level, then you have to go to the jungle and clear there in order to not get crippled. take a camp. Then, if the jungler gets pissed, tell them they can have some of the farm if they let you retake your lane. It's however much more likely that either the enemy team will try to push your tower, or the jungler will come to help you out. If they try to push your tower, you can farm under it. If the jungler comes to help, you can farm safely or maybe even get a kill or an assist. (far better than losing your lane)

The last thing you want to do is hang around and look pretty flailing your arms around kermit style in the middle of the lane because you can't get any gold or xp. If you STILL can't get any xp or gold, go help mid and push their lane so hard they end up taking the turret.

One of the things you might need to learn is what to do when you lose your lane. if you can't contribute in bottom lane and your support isn't there, then get out. do NOT waste time in a horrible matchup. As long as you are in a position where you are being held back, it is impossible for you to be an asset to your team. There is always some way to be helpful to your team. You just have to find it.

oOStarryKnightOo1 votes

As a dedicated Bard main, I agree.

Taryn31 votes

I love all the Bard players blaming the ADC for everything. I feel like in choosing Bard they forget they are in fact a support.

You won't win the game if you spend all your time getting chimes and letting me and my adc harass the hell out of your adc. But feel free to think it's not your fault that my adc is fed and yours is now afk.

With love,

The better support.

GaleWinUnleashed10 votes

The interesting part is that it's basically impossible to spend all of your time collecting chimes. There's only 2 of them every 50 seconds. What on earth are all these Bards doing when they're out of chimes to collect?

I Kill Commies24 votes

Damn your adc for not being able to 2v1 win lane.

Obviously his fault.

Vecuu17 votes

Daily reminder that Chimes last TEN MINUTES and you don't have to go out of your way to farm them.

Jamaree13 votes

Damn it, is it possible for sloths to not be funny?

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

As a matter of fact, it is not.

agbudar6 votes

yea i still report you lololol

your suposed to leave after your adc got fed not when he dies thats the same as being a bad support

ow wait....

funny meme dough +1

Father Cthulhu17 votes

That's not even remotely true. Even the spotlight for him says its ok to roam when your lane is in a safe place, not just fed. If you wait till he's fed, you get no meeps, and no ability progression.

Also, Bard is in a bad spot right now mainly because nobody who plays him "knows" how to play him. Everybody's build is wonky, people STILL can't land his ult properly, Q's all over the place, and 'Magical Journeys' right into the enemy team. Plus, they still can't judge when its safe to roam or not, or when to gank another lane.

Thumpin10 votes

Dude, you fuckin sit in lane until your ADC isn't a baby anymore and is ready to set off into the world on his own. Then you roam around the map making plays with Bard.

DON'T FUCKIN ROAM AT LEVEL 1 GUYS

IcyPepper4 votes

it's basically like parenting

except you're the one that leaves the nest

wait wut

RikoZerame3 votes

So like a Disney movie parent, then.

IcyPepper3 votes

Considering how squishy he is—WAIT TOO SOON MAN

Siyther3 votes

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Dude, you fuckin sit in lane until your ADC isn't a baby anymore and is ready to set off into the world on his own. Then you roam around the map making plays with Bard.

DON'T FUCKIN ROAM AT LEVEL 1 GUYS

i have no prob with bards roams just make sure u drop them health thingys b4 u go i actuallly play really passive and wait for enemy's to screw up as adc so he kinda fits in with my playstyle

junglerboy167 votes

Ever game that has a bard in it, if I look at bot lane our ADC runs over the health packs as soon as he drops them, when they're at full hp. Bard tries to help the ADC, but they somehow feel the unrelenting urge to run over the health pack as soon as he drops it, basically meaning that they never have the infinite duration ramping heal when they need it.

Jimmyyy3 votes

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That's not even remotely true. Even the spotlight for him says its ok to roam when your lane is in a safe place, not just fed. If you wait till he's fed, you get no meeps, and no ability progression.

Also, Bard is in a bad spot right now mainly because nobody who plays him "knows" how to play him. Everybody's build is wonky, people STILL can't land his ult properly, Q's all over the place, and 'Magical Journeys' right into the enemy team. Plus, they still can't judge when its safe to roam or not, or when to gank another lane.

I'm not trying to argue or anything, but when your adc is "being stomped" as is in the original post, that's not anywhere near a safe place. Stop being an asshat and come back to lane, because your adc obviously can't handle a 2v1.

LeeDark6 votes

If your ADC is getting stomped in bot when you leave, you chose the wrong game to play Bard, or you shouldn't be playing Bard at all because you suck at it.

ThePlasticSpork4 votes

I honestly find Bard's identity as a roaming support rather funny, because Thresh and Blitz are both better at it than he is.

Thresh and Blitz have the tools to secure their ADCs dominance in lane, while Bard does not. Thresh and Blitz, then, have several more opportunities to roam. Then, Thresh and Blitz have much better ganking than Bard does - even if Bard gets his stun off (which is very unreliable), Thresh and Blitz have better CC and more damage to boot. If you wanna roam as the support, Thresh/Blitz and even Annie are better picks. The only advantage that Bard has over any of those is that he doesn't lose as much XP, which is kind of irrelevant when you consider that he's not gonna have as much XP anyway considering how shitty he is at doing what he needs to do.

Bard is kind of a failure.

WESTFALL3 votes

My reaction as your ADC .

Takeuchi 172 votes

lmfao. sloths are so funny

Joltforce2 votes

Let me guess, you lost that game and blamed it on the ADC.

FearEngineer2 votes

tl;dr

Bard is useless.

GunThorvald2 votes

The statistics speak for themselves. hes under 40% win rate in ranked solo que.

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-loserate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=normal&league=ranked

Vegas Dad2 votes

{quoted}

The statistics speak for themselves. hes under 40% win rate in ranked solo que.

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-loserate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=normal&league=ranked

Mostly likely because of people like the OP who think bard is "perma roam" more than the champion actually being bad. RAWR i get a small xp trickle from chimes so that means i roam all game bro.....

GunThorvald3 votes

Ok so statistics lie about everyone else on that bottom 10 list? Suppose bard does what he is suppose to. If he plays against say a Leona how will it turn out?

FearEngineer2 votes

Stop man logic hurts these people

GunThorvald1 votes

Logic is hard to come by for many, you're correct. My bad.

Laraso2 votes

I appreciate the humor that was intended with this post, but I disagree with the message. If your bot lane is having problems you should be there to help, not just roaming because "lol I'm bard, I'll do whatever I want"

Señor Karthus2 votes

A Bard in your team is a defeat sentence anyway.

11014361 votes

hahahaahah

H0riz0n2341 votes

+1

Lord OwlBear1 votes

Bard Adc new meta

Raigen Convict1 votes

So, from what I see, Bard honestly takes a lot more communication from the team than other supports and if you work together you can overcome almost any lane with bard due to his utility and relatively safe play-style. But this is only with team communication and coordination. Let your carry know you're going to roam, if you see they need you, run back to help, the chimes can wait...

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