The Mordekaiser and Rylai's Crystal Scepter Issue (Item Reliance)

Legacy Hydralpha··2 votes·788 views

Those around before the Mid-Year Mage Update may remember an item called Will of The Ancients.

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It built from item 3145 and item 3108, and had the special stat of Spell Vamp. Why was Spell Vamp special? WoTA was the only item that had direct Spell Vamp, and the only way of getting it asides from runes, masteries, and passives. Now, why am I talking about a deleted item when this post was on the whole Mordekaiser and Rylai's(item 3116) issue?

Vladimir. Vladimir

Before the MYMU, Vladimir had an unhealthy reliance on WoTA, because of the Spell Vamp granting him larger sustain. So Vladimir got a rework and WoTA was removed. Now the same problem is happening with Morde. Morde's doing well right now IN SOLO LANES. His rework tried to make him a duo laner, but that clearly wasn't as effective. Morde has no gap closers in his kit, no slows or CC. Meanwhile... Darius Has a hook Garen Has a speed boost Skarner Has a slow and a speed boost Illaoi Has a short range dash with her attack enhancer Yorick Has a trap and a slow and a speed boost. (???)

Now, aside from Illaoi, these aren't very hard engages. Just CC and slows and stuff. Morde doesn't have any of those, and has to build Rylai's Crystal Scepter. Not only does Mordekaiser get the slow in his kit, he also gets some health and AP. Morde needs Rylai's to even catch up to some champs. With Riot's concept of changing Rylai's to have CDR, Mana, and Mana Regen (Something like that), Morde would bomb. Morde doesn't have mana and CDR isn't as good on him as other champions. The problem with Rylai's is that it gets spammed on burst mages like Cassiopeia. Because it has 100 AP and the slow for catching people. How could we fix Rylai's without destroying champs who use it like Rumble, Mordekaiser, and Vladimir?

MAKE IT A BRUISER ITEM.

Notice how the three champs I listed (Rumble, Mordekaiser, and Vladimir) are all champions who scale off AP and are tanky. Being a bruiser on these champs is better than full AP (Don't worry, you can still do like full AP Rumble or something) so Rylai's may actually help a bit to have more health and less AP. Rylai's should be a niche item, not just free slows and 100 AP.

If you want an idea of changes, what I gathered is this.

  1. Increase the health on Rylai's or leave it be. JUST DON'T REMOVE IT.
  2. Reduce the AP Rylai's gives, making it less effective on burst mages but still a decent item.
  3. Nerf, or simply alter, the slows Rylai's gives. Morde won't be bombed by a nerf to his slowing potential.

If Riot doesn't listen anyways and removes the health and fucks up Rylai's, they better give Mordekaiser a VGU soon. Mordeaiser won't work remotely well without Rylai's Crystal Scepter, it's way too important to his kit to be effective. Morde already needs a VGU (IMO), but he'll need it sooner if Rylai's gets changed.

TL;DR: Item reliance can be bad. Make Rylai's a better bruiser item than an AP item. If Rylai's loses it's health and becomes some weird mana item, rework Mordekaiser.

4 Comments

Primaquarius1 votes

Dont forget, WotA also supplemented the otherwise useless Ability of Morgana

Requiemsfire1 votes

It's really dumb that Mordekaiser relies on Rylai's so much that he needs it to make his kit functional when it comes to mid-game team fighting.

I'd say do something for morde like,

Turn his E into an AOE slow, his first Q grants a small movement speed boost, his second Q roots the target, his third Q deals massive damage. Of course balance his numbers around it. His ult could maybe enhance his Q in order to have the CC or something, I don't know. If anything they will have to rebalance morde's numbers if the do rework him again. But this way he won't be as reliant on Rylai's.

Anonagon1 votes

No champion truly needs Rylais but Morde. On every other AP champion - and yes, I do mean every other AP champion - Rylais is abusive It should be straight up removed.

Morde needs some form of CC or speed boost in his base kit

Anhaedran1 votes

I literally had this argument just now. If you don't build item 3116 you are basically fucked early game depending on the champion. It's ridiculous that a champions kit would be dependent on a item. Just adding a slow to morde would make a significant difference in his gameplay and make other builds more viable. It's to easy to counter build morde because of this. for example, a gnar only needs to rush frozen mallet and you cant do shit to him afterwords. I honestly think that changing item 3116 would not make any difference in solving the issue at hand. Morde would still be self reliant of item 3116 and still easily counter with items like item 3022 or item 3146

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