Why cant we 4-1 surrender at 15 mins?

Linda de Mol·Jul 24, 2019·14 votes·2,647 views

Many times the game is absolutely done at 15 mins but there's always one troll who wants you to wait until 20 mins. Always.

This is annoying. Please make 4-1 surrender possible at 15 mins.

29 Comments

PxerkzaJul 24, 201910 votes

because you touch yourself at night

on a more serious note not every game is done @15 even if 4 people want to FF i've won such games and since trolls exist id rather not get randomly ff'd on @15

Linda de MolJul 24, 20191 votes

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because you touch yourself at night

on a more serious note not every game is done @15 even if 4 people want to FF i've won such games and since trolls exist id rather not get randomly ff'd on @15

https://i.imgur.com/emPYaSc.jpg you think we win this? (screenshot made at 15 mins) btw diana was afking all the time, reconnect disconnect, plays few mins then leaves again

PxerkzaJul 24, 20191 votes

this is open material was open material @10 if you ask me and your one vote delusional asshole can suck it

DuskDaUmbreonJul 24, 20193 votes

And this is one game. The extremely rare case of a game actually being lost at 15 minutes is far less important than actually winning.

Zero ShingetsuJul 24, 20191 votes

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because you touch yourself at night

on a more serious note not every game is done @15 even if 4 people want to FF i've won such games and since trolls exist id rather not get randomly ff'd on @15

Please tell me your secret. How do you get upvotes when you say this and I get downvoted to oblivion when I do? Teach me how to win the support of the boards!

Oh well, at least now I know there are still others out there who don't give up on a game because of a slow start!

DiävoloJul 24, 20197 votes

idk, even 3/2 should be acceptable all the time. Since the half of the team want to ff.

Linda de MolJul 24, 20192 votes

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idk, even 3/2 should be acceptable all the time. Since the half of the team want to ff.

https://i.imgur.com/emPYaSc.jpg

this screenshot was made at 15 minute mark.

we have to keep playing another 5 mins because..?

DiävoloJul 24, 20193 votes

I mean, Riot should make the ff all the game 3/2 not 4/1. I mean the fucking ff is dumb. If 3 people accept to surrender yes we want to surrender. The game you played is dogshit and you had to ff. Why none understands me ?

Linda de MolJul 24, 20194 votes

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I mean, Riot should make the ff all the game 3/2 not 4/1. I mean the fucking ff is dumb. If 3 people accept to surrender yes we want to surrender. The game you played is dogshit and you had to ff. Why none understands me ?

i encountered many troll duo's premade who said no to surrender and kept the people hostage for 30+ mins

DiävoloJul 24, 20192 votes

Dude. I'm not trying to satisfy you here ok ? I'm giving my idea to a boards post.

HotarµJul 24, 20197 votes

Because not every game you play is over at 15 minutes. It's not over at 20 minutes, either. It might not even be over at 30 minutes if you play it right.

The point is, we don't want 3 people to have control over the entire game. People give up too easily as is. That function would be abused by 3-man premades, duos, and further perpetuate the mentality that people have right now of giving up too early.

Linda de MolJul 24, 20194 votes

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Because not every game you play is over at 15 minutes. It's not over at 20 minutes, either. It might not even be over at 30 minutes if you play it right.

The point is, we don't want 3 people to have control over the entire game. People give up too easily as is. That function would be abused by 3-man premades, duos, and further perpetuate the mentality that people have right now of giving up too early.

so you tell me the 4-1 surrender vote is never a bused by troll premade duos who want to keep you hostage and both vote no?

DuskDaUmbreonJul 24, 20193 votes

People voting no is far less consequential than people voting yes.

I'd rather lose a bit more of my time than lose LP because a 3-man decided to FF. Or because bot and jg gave up because they're behind when me and mid each have more kills than the entire enemy team combined and have no deaths.

My LP>A few more minutes of your time.

SukishooJul 24, 20194 votes

But something needs to be changed because being held hostage in a game is never fun. I had one go on for over 60 minutes monday and it would have saved so much time if they just excepted defeat and let us out.

There's a point in many games when you KNOW it is over. It's also why the system should only allow one duo in a solo/duo match, not have two and a solo

HotarµJul 24, 20191 votes

But something needs to be changed because being held hostage in a game is never fun. I had one go on for over 60 minutes monday and it would have saved so much time if they just excepted defeat and let us out.

At what point does it stop being a hostage situation and start being a legitimate attempt to win?

Assuming I'm looking at the correct game (correct me if I'm not): Your team had more towers than them, you were only behind by 5k gold (which doesn't matter because everyone was full build) and you were 10 kills behind, which again, doesn't really matter too much. at that point in the game. Everyone was max level, everyone had full builds, and IMO you had the better teamfighting comp.

You were almost on equal footing and you could have won that game.

Yes, it sucks that the game had to go on for that long, but if anything that match is proof that you shouldn't surrender early.

There's a point in many games when you KNOW it is over. It's also why the system should only allow one duo in a solo/duo match, not have two and a solo

Yes, I know there is a point when a game can be over and I'd rather move on, but the problem is that people give up too easily.

SukishooJul 25, 20192 votes

Yes that was it and yes it was fairly even but the point was it was over by 30. There was no need to drag it on for another 30 when the outcome ended up being the same.

HotarµJul 25, 20191 votes

Yes that was it and yes it was fairly even but the point was it was over by 30.

No it wasn't, you can't say "it was over by 30" when the game went on for another 30 minutes.

There was no need to drag it on for another 30 when the outcome ended up being the same.

Just because you lost doesn't mean anything, the point is you got back on equal footing with the enemy team and had multiple chances to win. Your team made mistakes and lost, your team not forfeiting earlier doesn't matter because you weren't in a disadvantage state. You lost fair and square.

My original point still stands and as mentioned before this game is proof that you shouldn't give up early.

SukishooJul 25, 20192 votes

But it was over. When a laner, top in this case had double digits deaths before everyone, no kills, was always trying to split rather than stick with the team that right there is a loss.

14daysuspensionkJul 26, 20191 votes

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https://i.imgur.com/emPYaSc.jpg

this screenshot was made at 15 minute mark.

we have to keep playing another 5 mins because..?

Support in the jungle?

TheÐarkMagicianJul 27, 20191 votes

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idk, even 3/2 should be acceptable all the time. Since the half of the team want to ff.

It's because most low elo people don't understand "scaling".

You would have droves of idiots FFing winnable games because there karthhus, nasus, vayne, vigar, urgot comp is down 4 kills at 15 minuets because the enemy have a Leesin.

KanzlerJul 24, 20194 votes

Because quitters are awful people

ZardoJul 24, 20194 votes

The day they let 4/1 surrenders pass at 15 is the day I quit.

I can't tell you how many times some people die once in lane then want to quit when we're fine. I can't tell you how often I win games where I vote no and it fails 4-1, it's probably around half.

Zero ShingetsuJul 24, 20191 votes

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The day they let 4/1 surrenders pass at 15 is the day I quit.

I can't tell you how many times some people die once in lane then want to quit when we're fine. I can't tell you how often I win games where I vote no and it fails 4-1, it's probably around half.

Same experience here. Often, those who want to surrender that quickly are faint of heart. Things start poorly and they panic. Often all they need is one or two good teamfights and they'll follow the team's momentum right back into the game.