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Jungle is still horrible to play. The experience changes did quite literally nothing.

Yenn·2/10/2020, 7:36:59 AM·5 votes·1,906 views

I just had a game as Udyr that highlighted the entire problem with jungle.

I'm level 6 and have taken both dragon and Herald as soon as they spawned. The enemy top lane is a Cho'gath who is level 8, pushed to my Sion's turret. I gank him, my Sion misses his entire kit, and then the Cho'gath literally just turns and almost one shots me. That's it. E + Q while I'm slowed + W + R and a couple more autos for ~1000 damage.

This isn't an issue specific to Cho'gath. This is a recurring theme with any burst champion; unless the enemy team is playing incredibly badly, ganking a lane that isn't already losing is suicide 9/10 times, because you're so incredibly far behind at baseline. The time I spent taking Dragon and Herald instead of my camps put me ~2 levels behind the solo lanes.

This shit needs to be fixed. The entire role's ability to do literally anything but PvE should not be contingent on your lanes winning. You can't interact with lanes when you're as far behind as you are if you aren't just AFK farming.

11 Comments

Jng Account2/10/2020, 7:41:37 AM3 votes

Ok, so you want to play role that has most impact, but you also want to be able to fight solo laners?

Ayzev2/10/2020, 4:38:02 PM3 votes

Personally, I'm not against jungle exp buffs. But you have to nerf it somewhere else first, as it's already considered the most impactful role, or you'll have "better jungle wins" spammed every single game instead of only every 4th or so.

Actually, I'd say instead of direct exp buffs, buff it indirectly by making camps respawn faster. Then junglers will have to choose, farm for exp and gold or spam-gank. Will probably need some more specific minor adjustments afterwards, but that much shouldn't be difficult to figure out

Also, for god's sake, revert scuttle already.

myamia2/10/2020, 12:06:59 PM2 votes

gank your lanes before doing drake, lane priority is more important than your objectives.

Posui Gart2/10/2020, 1:02:02 PM2 votes

For a role that plays either pve, 3v2 or 2v1, you also want to be able to 1v1 people? Sion misses his entire kit while you are the one with targetted stun? That seems like Sion's problem, not the jungle You also SOLO killed both drake and herald, 2 gamechanging objectives with mechanics that are supposed to make solo killing them hard This is what needs to be fixed.

Pandemic Punch2/10/2020, 8:12:54 AM1 votes

And all of your other jungle games, you were even or level/s ahead.

PhearBunny2/10/2020, 1:32:01 PM1 votes

The ONLY, the one and ONLY, the ONLY ONLY THE ONE AND ONLY ONLY way to have impact as a jungler in a game where your laners are losing pre-6, is to play Leesin.