Spell shields of any kind should not block Bard's ultimate.

Tentakill Myself··1 votes·2,591 views

It's a 130 second cooldown STASIS. Morgana should not be able to press her cheese button and be able to block something over 2 minutes in CD that does no damage and is 100% utility. It's literally like having a spell shield block a longer CD zhonyas.

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Darth Pixy Misa5 votes

All spell shields should block Bard's ult. it's counterplay.

Lord Dusteon3 votes

Bard's ultimate applies a CC of stasis. Spell shielded champions can block the spell. This is the exact same as using a spell shield to stop an Ashe arrow or a spell shield to block Nami R.

Aatrox Herself1 votes

I misread that and thought you cloud bard ult an Ashe Arrow. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!

Apollocliptic1 votes

It's not the same, since Bard's stasis works on a different mechanic to pretty much everything else in the game, given then it prevents damage and affects allies and enemies and neutrals and turrets the same. If anything, it should put the spell shielded target in stasis, then the shield is still on afterwards.

Lord Dusteon3 votes

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It's not the same, since Bard's stasis works on a different mechanic to pretty much everything else in the game, given then it prevents damage and affects allies and enemies and neutrals and turrets the same. If anything, it should put the spell shielded target in stasis, then the shield is still on afterwards.

No. You realize what a spell shield does, right? it SHIELDS the user from the next SPELL. Bard's ultimate is a spell, and if you re untargetable/already in stasis/spell shielded/black shielded it does not take effect. This is entirely intended and for good reason, as it is already a long range AoE stasis, which is incredibly powerful.

Bard's ultimate acts as a castable CC forced version of Zhonya's. Spell shield block spells (which Bard's ult is) and black shield blocks CC (which Bard's ult is), so them blocking his ult on the user is 100% intended.

Apollocliptic1 votes

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No. You realize what a spell shield does, right? it SHIELDS the user from the next SPELL. Bard's ultimate is a spell, and if you re untargetable/already in stasis/spell shielded/black shielded it does not take effect. This is entirely intended and for good reason, as it is already a long range AoE stasis, which is incredibly powerful.

Bard's ultimate acts as a castable CC forced version of Zhonya's. Spell shield block spells (which Bard's ult is) and black shield blocks CC (which Bard's ult is), so them blocking his ult on the user is 100% intended.

I give you that "Spell shield" should block it on a technicality, but I don't think Morgana's black shield should, because the stasis isn't really cc as much as a stall. Yes it is undeniably a spell, but I think it should not be blocked by the cc shield, the same way it is not reduced by Tenacity!

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

Morgana's Black Shield doesn't say that it ignores CC, it says that it ignores disables.

The stasis effect does disable them

JustMyBassCannon3 votes

"Fizz shouldn't be able to just dodge Caitlyn's ultimate."

"Yasuo shouldn't be able to just wall Ashe's ultimate."

"Veigar shouldn't have Thresh's ultimate, but better on a basic spell."

What do you know, Riot doesn't care much for what you think shouldn't be doable.

cruiz2 votes

LOL these people....his ult isnt CC! you're right, it's even better than CC; It stops them from moving, prevents any healing on them, and runs out the timer of their ults)......oh but wah it's 2m cd. Here's a suggestion. Rank 3, w/ cdr in your build...omg it's not 2m anymore!? WTF!?!?!?!

SEKAI1 votes

They should not add that magics used by gods is of entirely different nature than those used on mortal realm, making it impossible to guard as it penetrates through any spell shield. Or it is simply too powerful for a shield, invented by lesser existences, to withstand.

Apollocliptic1 votes

I agree, I made another post about a simple buff on Bard ("http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/12lHN7Uk-bard-a-simple-change-to-make-him-viable"), but I think this deserves a note as well (repost on my post, hopefully if anyone pays attention both changes will be made)

Truly Prideful1 votes

I don't see the issue with spell shields working on it, they're not common enough. Most of them are self cast only and Morgana's is something unique to her kit. Just be more aware of enemy cooldowns before you ult like you would with any ult.

The Storm Dragon1 votes

If Black Shield blocks Bard's ult, then it should also block Zhonyas if Morgana tries to trigger it while shielded.

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