Serious Question about Runes Reforged update (Re: Orange Essence)

Samael11·10/2/2017, 3:46:46 AM·6 votes·1,270 views

Almost all the information that has been released has been about what is happening to IP, Blue Essence, Champ Shards and the things that use them.

I have not heard anything concrete about what is happening exactly to Orange Essence, Champ Skins, Ward Skins.

In one of the updates it was alluded that Champ and Ward Skins would be going up in price / down in value, "to make up for how many more you would be getting" and IIRC you could still reroll 3 into a new skin (though that functionality is being removed for the actual champion shards). But Skins use a different resource than Blue Essence and all the talk and FAQ information has been about Blue Essence changes, so I would like more information about the impact this update will have on Orange Essence values.

I would especially like to know, should I disenchant and/or purchase the skins in my inventory before or after the update?

Also, with the leveling changes and honor rewards and the like... are weekly rewards for S-ing a champion being removed?

17 Comments

Samael1110/2/2017, 3:45:44 PM1 votes

bump, now that it isn't super early Monday morning

Samael1110/2/2017, 9:50:00 PM1 votes

does no one have an answer? preferably with Rito-level authority.

Samael1110/3/2017, 9:20:22 PM1 votes

bumping for an answer

Teriyaki Bukkake10/4/2017, 3:20:40 AM1 votes

Legit no idea but I have the same questions, upvoted

Mysticman8910/4/2017, 3:31:02 AM1 votes

I'm fairly sure they've expressed somewhere along the lines that orange essence and things related to them won't be changing, apart from them adding bad luck protecting from chests so you'll be guaranteed a skin shard after enough champ shards in a row.

What they said about things going down in value was the disenchant value of champion shards (not skins), since leveling up gives capsules which are likely to contain champion shards, meaning people will get alot more champ shards than currently. Champion skin shards and ward skin shards should have the same value, and would continue to disenchant into the same amounts of orange essence though, so it shouldn't matter if you use them now or later.

It is worth it to disenchant any champion shards now because their disenchant value will be going down, but again, that's just the base champion shards and not champion skin shards.

Honour just provides a more reliable way of gaining key fragments, which are only really useful for the chests we get from our weekly S ranks, so it's extremely unlikely they'd change that.

edit: Actually I'm wrong, they're tuning down all the disenchant values. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012640908

Are you making any changes to the way disenchanting shards works?

Since you'll be getting more shards thanks to the new leveling system (and with other recent changes to honor and events), we'll tune down the relative value of the essence you get from disenchanting shards of all types—champ shards, skin shards, and ward skin shards.

In the current system, for example, disenchanting a champ shard will get you about a third of the BE you need to buy a champ at that shard's tier. In the new system it'll get you 20% of the way there. Also, with so many more champ shards in the system, we need to remove the ability to reroll them into permanent champs—but we’ll occasionally sell mystery champions for blue essence. For these reasons, you should go ahead and reroll or disenchant any shards you don't want to upgrade before preseason hits so you can get the most essence possible out of them.

To make up for essence drop rate changes, we'll tune the way loot boxes work to increase the amount of skins you'll get from them. We'll also add "bad luck protection," so you won't ever go on long streaks without getting a skin shard or a gemstone from chests.

So disenchant everything you want to disenchant now. Purchases probably won't change though (as they'd only need to tweak either of disenchant value or orange essence costs, not both, in order to keep things consistent), so I doubt it matters when you do it for ones you're planning to 'purchase' by way of upgrading to permanents.

Samael1110/5/2017, 6:13:01 PM1 votes

and a bump

Samael1110/8/2017, 10:16:54 PM1 votes

still waiting on this

Samael1110/10/2017, 2:57:02 PM1 votes

/tap

Samael1110/11/2017, 8:33:37 PM1 votes

/sigh Rito

Samael1110/12/2017, 4:40:04 PM1 votes

daily bump for answers

Samael1110/14/2017, 5:41:33 PM1 votes

Still waiting for an answer on what is happening to the Loot System in regards to Orange essence

Samael1110/18/2017, 3:47:16 PM1 votes

would prefer an answer before it is too late, in 2-3 weeks

Samael1110/19/2017, 4:10:49 PM1 votes

bumping for answers

Samael1110/23/2017, 5:37:03 PM1 votes

and again.

Samael1110/24/2017, 4:25:12 PM1 votes

Yo, Rito?

Graffinator10/31/2017, 1:20:47 PM1 votes

I mean. WHY IS THIS STILL NOT ANSWERED?