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Riot, You Still have yet to answer Orange Essence Questions regarding PreSeason changes

Samael11·10/28/2017, 6:33:14 PM·14 votes·1,185 views

I have been asking for the last month, both in the fora and in the "Ask Riot" submission, and I'm seeing a lot of new posts focusing around the same questions.

Please can we get official updates on this stuff?

Almost all the information that has been released has been about what is happening to IP, Blue Essence, Champ Shards and the things that use them.

I have not heard anything concrete about what is happening exactly to Orange Essence and Champ / Ward Skin shards.

In one of the updates it was alluded that Champ and Ward Skins would be going up in price / down in value, "to make up for how many more you would be getting" and IIRC you could still reroll 3 into a new skin (though that functionality is being removed for the actual champion shards). But Skins use a different resource than Blue Essence and all the talk and FAQ information has been about Blue Essence changes, so I would like more information about the impact this update will have on Orange Essence values.

I would especially like to know, should I disenchant and/or purchase the skins in my inventory before or after the update?

Also, with the leveling changes and honor rewards and the like... are weekly rewards for S-ing a champion being removed?

15 Comments

Jaspers10/29/2017, 2:01:39 PM2 votes

You have to delve deep into that link Get Jinxed posted to understand it. Skin shards will be worth 20% Orange Essence instead of 33% orange essence. They will be more expensive. The reason hidden in the post (which I might add doesn't mention orange essence specifically EVER) is because you'll have a chance (whatever that means) of getting 2 things in a chest instead of 1, so you could get 2 skins in 1 chest.

The information is there but because they never talk about orange essence it's unclear. They need to be clearer. I had like 12 skins shards at one point and just disenchanted a lot of them for the OE but left 6 which are either Legacy or I might want in place to 'buy' later.

My concern is this.

Should I buy them now? as I don't know if the cost of them will go up as well as the orange essence we get go down.

Sebetai10/28/2017, 7:40:40 PM1 votes

I have a bunch of skin and ward shards I've just been holding on too. Might as well disenchant the ones I know I don't want before pre season.

DarkRitual10/28/2017, 10:13:21 PM1 votes

It's best to disenchant or upgrade them before the preseason patch. Values are dropping, because you'll get more skin shards from level-up capsules (lower levels give more champ shards, while higher levels will include a greater amount of cosmetics). Weekly reward limit for hextech chests from mastery grades are not getting changed.

Samael1110/31/2017, 6:03:02 PM1 votes

7 days left to address these concerns Riot

ZT Xperimentor10/31/2017, 6:08:53 PM1 votes

Also eagerly awaiting news regarding the overhaul, and long tired of them spamming esports news in the announcements tab. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official Seriously . . . there's an esports section for a reason.

Samael1111/1/2017, 7:20:33 PM1 votes

Down to 6 days

Jefftiffy11/1/2017, 7:38:28 PM1 votes

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Hi everyone! I agree we haven't spelled this out as clearly as we should have. We did cover this in the preseason FAQ.

The TLDR is that ALL shard disenchant values are being changed from 33% of value to 20% of value. So if you have shards lying around that you're not intending to use, we recommend disenchanting them before preseason kicks off on November 8th to get the most possible essence out of them.

More context below:

Are you making any changes to the way disenchanting shards works?

Since you'll be getting more shards thanks to the new leveling system (and with other recent changes to honor and events), we'll tune down the relative value of the essence you get from disenchanting shards of all types—champ shards, skin shards, and ward skin shards.

In the current system, for example, disenchanting a champ shard will get you about a third of the BE you need to buy a champ at that shard's tier. In the new system it'll get you 20% of the way there. Also, with so many more champ shards in the system, we need to remove the ability to reroll them into permanent champs—but we’ll occasionally sell mystery champions for blue essence. For these reasons, you should go ahead and reroll or disenchant any shards you don't want to upgrade before preseason hits so you can get the most essence possible out of them.

To make up for essence drop rate changes, we'll tune the way loot boxes work to increase the amount of skins you'll get from them. We'll also add "bad luck protection," so you won't ever go on long streaks without getting a skin shard or a gemstone from chests.

I would assume anything else is remaining the same outside of the mentioned blue essence changes.

Galactic Mayhem10/28/2017, 7:01:58 PM1 votes

They did talk about it,orange essence disenchantment is getting cut down to 25% when the BE IP merge happens

Samael1111/2/2017, 7:45:12 PM1 votes

Thanks. That's still not a god answer, but at least it is a little more substantial.

And saying we described it poorly, then quoting the poor wording to elaborate as he did seems an odd choice.

I'd still like to see it specifically described and have it's own section or paragraph in the FAQ, but I'll take what I can get.

Now to agonize over the next 4 days deciding whether I dust Nunu Bot or eventually make it permanent.