Support Brand averages more damage dealt per game than Yasuo

dunder kill·Dec 29, 2016·5 votes·1,394 views

http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Top

http://champion.gg/champion/Brand

Let that sink in for a minute

21 Comments

AhristocatsDec 29, 20162 votes

yeah he's op, i'm abusing him right now and only lose when my adc is garbage

EedatDec 29, 20162 votes

More than Vayne too lmao

http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne

EndlessSorcererDec 30, 20162 votes

So, you are saying that a ranged mage who specializes in dealing AoE damage tends to deal more damage than a melee duelist who deals primarily single-target damage?

Shocking. Truly shocking.

dunder killDec 30, 20162 votes

Ranged Support. I'm not crying about Mid Brand. Support Brand with a item 2049 item 3116 item 3151 (6600 gold) out-damages a solo-laner with item 3031 item 3046 item 3072 (9850 gold). You dont see a problem with this?

EndlessSorcererDec 30, 20161 votes

I don't see an issue with a single-target champion being outdamaged by an AoE champion.

Yasuo tend to excel in skirmishes and duels rather than teamfights.

Also, you didn't bother mentioning , item 3020 item 3092 or item 2301 , which would have added to Brand's damage significantly and are core on him.

dunder killDec 30, 20161 votes

Well I could keep adding on items to Yas at that point too. item 2301 really isnt helping his case considering it costs 2200 gold but it only offers 25 AP lol

If you're really stuck on the AoE thing, Support Brand average more damage per game than Anvia, Fiddle, Vlad, Orianna, and Wukong.

EndlessSorcererDec 30, 20161 votes

I wasn't adding items.

Generally, Brand is going to have Sorcerer Shoes and Eye of the Watchers or Frost Queen's Claim before finishing Rylai's Crystal Scepter and Liandry's Torment.

You were excluding them, which reduced the value of Brand's items and exaggerated the difference.

If anything, it was reducing the difference in gold values and providing an actual, realistic build.

dunder killDec 30, 20161 votes

Well if anything thats even worse. Support Brand doesnt have the gold income of a solo lane. Adding more gold on to his build becomes more and more unrealistic. Also, Brand not finishing item 2301 is pretty common

Best princess EUDec 30, 20161 votes

item 3151 is so fucking noob trap

get item 3165 instead , cheaper more cdr MORE AP more mana and anti-heal passive against warlord adc

EedatDec 30, 20163 votes

item 3116 + item 3151 was core on Brand even before they buffed it in the Mage update. It just synergizes too damn well with his passive and massive AoE damage

Jaygo41Dec 30, 20161 votes

Maybe it has to do with the fact that brand hits multiple people and most people aren't going to go within a screen of item 3022 item 3046 yasuo

MagicFlyingLlamaDec 30, 20162 votes

Of course.

Brand does AoE damage, Yasuo is single target. Do the (2nd grade) math. Any control/sustained aoe mage (anivia, zyra, brand, taliyah) tends to have the highest damage on the team

Professor WardDec 30, 20161 votes

E: cuz aoe

PhDs NutsDec 30, 20161 votes

Can we stop with this "lol support did more damage item 3116 item 3135 item 3285 item 3165 item 3089 item 2049 " nonsense?

Like, no shit. Playing support doesn't reduce your damage. Playing low damage champions and building non-offensive items reduces your damage.

dunder killDec 30, 20161 votes

Oh I'm under no illusion that he's a "support". More or less calling bullshit on the amount of damage he does on a support's income. A "support" out damaging a solo laner with 6 CS and an XP deficit. Lol k

MagicFlyingLlamaDec 30, 20161 votes

He is an (optional) support, just like veigar, zyra, vel'koz, morgana. Far better players than yourself are in agreement about it.

All SkillzzDec 30, 20161 votes

everyone deals more damage than yasuo cause hes dead all the time. Or hes banned all the time so he cant deal damage if hes not in the game.

agbudarDec 30, 20161 votes

yea what did you expect compare the ZERO mobility with 1 STUN THAT IS PRETTY DIFFICULT TO LAND vs windwall /end thr... WAIT

AND vs unlimited mobility in certain situation and a aoe knock up that can last a full 3-4 seconds.

let THAT sink in for a moment

wait what is that you said? he gets double crit and a shield that makes trading nigh impossible....

fuk it im done trying to even let anything sink in at this point

King of DemonsDec 30, 20161 votes

That's like saying "Zyra deals the most damage in the game she's broken"

CalabokDec 30, 20161 votes

nah. its just about the player. not everyone is 100% the identical skilled like you're making it out to be.

420TemplarDec 30, 20161 votes

Damage only matters if it accomplishes something. If Brand does 30k damage in a game, but it's split among the team and 25k of that damage was against tanks who survived the damage easily, the Brand didn't accomplish a whole lot. On the other hand, if a Yasuo only does 8k damage in a game, but all 8k were done to the enemy ADC during teamfights, killing the ADC each time, the Yasuo accomplished a lot. Context matters a lot.