Some Ways to Deal With Ivern
We all know and love/hate the wonderful
. Plenty of people say he needs nerfs, few others retort "He's fine!" But in the endless arguments that go on about him, no one ever discusses, or even ASKS for, ways to deal with him. While I'm no expert, I'll offer a bit of advice (and welcome others to do the same!) on what to do when you're playing against this champ. NOTE: This is not a discussion on whether he's OP or not. It's just to help people deal with him.
- Ward the side you don't start on!
- The likelihood of Ivern invading you in the beginning is pretty high, especially in lower elo, and he can do this in literal seconds. Walk in, pop one of your buffs, go back to his own camps, and keep you behind for days. Ward the side you're not starting on, and if he goes to invade, you should do the same!
- Invade!
- Ivern doesn't get a leash. Because of this, people will TYPICALLY be in their lanes. Try securing one or two of your own camps and then invade his own! He can only smite to secure a single camp during his first rotation, so it's pretty likely you'll catch one he'd just started and is far off from completing. It takes his health to start a camp, so if you take one he's started, you're leaving him low on health and with very few options to retaliate.
- Consider
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- These champs make Daisy their *****. Graves and Nunu have really strong, effective clears, and Nunu having what's essentially a second smite allows him to take away one of Ivern's greatest tools. Tahm is also great for eating her! While the catfish isn't necessarily great for invades, he works well against Ivern in devouring key targets, or allies who've been snared, and the other two work great for invades.
- Deep wards mid-late!
- Not knowing where Ivern is, is one of the reasons he destroys you so quickly. He can waltz around freely in a wardless jungle, taking whatever camps he wants when his smite is up (and once he's got his ionian boots, this is VERY often) in seconds. This will leave your jungler behind, and is likely to negatively impact your lanes as well. Get some wards up in both your jungle and the enemy's, and you're MUCH less susceptible to Ivern's easy counter-jungling.
I know some of these may sound a little redundant, but hey, they can help if you do it all properly. Maybe it won't guarantee you a win, but at least you'll be able to fight back. If anyone else has helpful tips on how to deal with Ivern, drop em below! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
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-Graves, nunu, and lee are all great counters for Ivern.
-And yes, invading at lvl 1 will be very effective against him. However, continue to apply pressure in his jg. You will almost always come out ahead.
-Also, if possible, during fights focus daisy. Obviously dont focus daisy over the enemy adc, but the quicker you dispatch Daisy, the quicker you take away a large portion of iverns dmg. And in the off chance that you find yourself in a 1v1 with Ivern, focus daisy first.
) can be Ivern's demise in the early game.