How to actually deal with Irelia?
I'm just going to ignore all of the comments saying, "Just CC her, she's dead" because that's not an Irelia counterplay. That's one way to deal with literally every champion in the game and I don't feel like it's actually a realistic form of counterplay that any champion is currently or should ever balanced around. (Since this is an
thread, I won't bother it with
ranting)
Irelia's start game just feels like garbage. She does no damage, loses trades hard and just can't seem to get an advantage. But then it feels like the moment she hits level 4-5, she'll back and come back to lane and all of the sudden she's diving your face, blowing up your HP bar and stealing your bitches. Her mid game consists mostly of her building full damage, meaning she just destroys people in seconds and she has a lot of natural tankiness against sustained damage dealers, meaning dueling her feels either like a waste of time or completely impossible and burst is only relevant until she start building her tank items and then she can't be reliably burst down anymore.
Irelias are always hard carrying, they're always diving and winning 1v2's and 1v3's if there's no CC; and kite feels worthless with her targeted dashes and her ult. Trying to itemize against her is a nightmare when she does AP, AD and True Damage, so you're just wasting stats unless you're building almost full HP.
I played a Kindred top lane game against her and anyone who knows Kindred knows that she's an excellent duelist, arguably one of the best in the game at the moment with fantastic sustain with her W passive and really nice damage. The early game went heavily in my favor. She's just getting kited and straight up destroyed hard, no deaths though. I push her out of lane, she heals up, comes back with like a PIckaxe and all of the sudden it feels like that 25 AD is what caused me to be instantly deleted by her once she landed her stun. Going from 3/4 health to 0 in seconds by someone you were just trashing just feels really pointless.
Since Irelia is one of the most popular picks for top lane right now, I feel like the only way to deal with her is to either 100% pick/ban or just queue dodge if she comes up as an enemy pick.
Does anyone have any detailed information on how to actually deal with Irelia both in general terms and as someone like Kindred? I'm just tired of her hypercarrying every game and destroying.
even
can outduel her, if she doesn't burst him, also
She can't fight at all juggernauts like Darius and Garen, unless she is ahead of them.
It's funny to thing that Kindred can manfight someone who is on top of her...
She was made to jungle, gank and snowball with her stacks.
, play a champion with some good range and burst like
or play a champion that outscales her like