How to actually deal with Irelia?

RcGjWO640w··3 votes·2,551 views

I'm just going to ignore all of the comments saying, "Just CC her, she's dead" because that's not an Irelia counterplay. That's one way to deal with literally every champion in the game and I don't feel like it's actually a realistic form of counterplay that any champion is currently or should ever balanced around. (Since this is an Irelia thread, I won't bother it with Yasuo ranting)

Irelia's start game just feels like garbage. She does no damage, loses trades hard and just can't seem to get an advantage. But then it feels like the moment she hits level 4-5, she'll back and come back to lane and all of the sudden she's diving your face, blowing up your HP bar and stealing your bitches. Her mid game consists mostly of her building full damage, meaning she just destroys people in seconds and she has a lot of natural tankiness against sustained damage dealers, meaning dueling her feels either like a waste of time or completely impossible and burst is only relevant until she start building her tank items and then she can't be reliably burst down anymore.

Irelias are always hard carrying, they're always diving and winning 1v2's and 1v3's if there's no CC; and kite feels worthless with her targeted dashes and her ult. Trying to itemize against her is a nightmare when she does AP, AD and True Damage, so you're just wasting stats unless you're building almost full HP.

I played a Kindred top lane game against her and anyone who knows Kindred knows that she's an excellent duelist, arguably one of the best in the game at the moment with fantastic sustain with her W passive and really nice damage. The early game went heavily in my favor. She's just getting kited and straight up destroyed hard, no deaths though. I push her out of lane, she heals up, comes back with like a PIckaxe and all of the sudden it feels like that 25 AD is what caused me to be instantly deleted by her once she landed her stun. Going from 3/4 health to 0 in seconds by someone you were just trashing just feels really pointless.

Since Irelia is one of the most popular picks for top lane right now, I feel like the only way to deal with her is to either 100% pick/ban or just queue dodge if she comes up as an enemy pick.

Does anyone have any detailed information on how to actually deal with Irelia both in general terms and as someone like Kindred? I'm just tired of her hypercarrying every game and destroying.

13 Comments

Lauchmelder2 votes

Just (Better) nerf Irelia

Ionian2 votes

D4 Ahri/Irelia two trick pony here.

Irelia's early levels are absolutely terrible, you can easily win trades and zone her from farm. Use this to your advantage. Respect her stinger powerspike (if she doesn't buy stinger then just wreck her) and her level 9. Do not fight her at level 9 and/or when she just completed triforce. In lane, do not stand near low hp minions or she can Q to them and get a reset, then chase you.

Her damage falls off hard in the lategame unless she builds full damage, but then she is worthless in teamfights. If the full damage Irelia is splitpushing, send a tank to deal with her. If the tanky Irelia is teamfighting, she should have no real way of getting to your carries, and even if she does, all she has is 1 dash, push her away and she can't do anything after that. The tanky Irelia will just act as a frontline with mediocre damage vs yours.

Irelia's hardest counters are AS slows, qss/mikaels and hp. Her magic damage is negligible after the laning phase, and her physical damage falls off extremely hard in the mid/late. The reason she seems to melt people is because of W + sheen procs, neither of which do meaningful damage to hp stacking tanks.

RcGjWO640w1 votes

So you would recommend a bruiser/tank with good fighting potential I guess. Picks like Olaf or Garen seem like they could ignore most of her burst damage through the mid game of you build something tankier first.

My main problem is that nine time out of ten I usually get counterpicked Irelia into whomever I'm laning as. She has absolutely no problems farming under both my tower and hers, so lane dominance means little. On top of doing my best to freeze the wave and call for ganks, any other tips I could use when dealing with being counterpicked by Irelia? Or maybe not even counterpicked, but just a pick where you don't counter her?

Ionian1 votes

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So you would recommend a bruiser/tank with good fighting potential I guess. Picks like Olaf or Garen seem like they could ignore most of her burst damage through the mid game of you build something tankier first.

My main problem is that nine time out of ten I usually get counterpicked Irelia into whomever I'm laning as. She has absolutely no problems farming under both my tower and hers, so lane dominance means little. On top of doing my best to freeze the wave and call for ganks, any other tips I could use when dealing with being counterpicked by Irelia? Or maybe not even counterpicked, but just a pick where you don't counter her?

Olaf is the classic Irelia counter. Malph is also nearly unwinnable. If you find yourself against Irelia, just rush some hp (like giant's belt) and you will survive laning.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Kindred has lower hp pool, less armor and MR, of course you are gonna get deleted by any bruiser, if you get caught... Irelia has strong burst with sheen and some true dmg and that's it. She can't fight to the death unlike many other fighters. She uses W, engages for a chunk of your hp, then slow/stuns and usually runs back just like Riven does. If she tries to manfight champions with better steroids and better sustained DPS, she gets wrecked, if she doesn't disengage -Trundle Tryndamere even Aatrox can outduel her, if she doesn't burst him, also Volibear Jax Olaf Shyvana XinZhao She can't fight at all juggernauts like Darius and Garen, unless she is ahead of them. It's funny to thing that Kindred can manfight someone who is on top of her... She was made to jungle, gank and snowball with her stacks.

Swiftstrike41 votes

Kindred in the top lane would have been a poor matchup with Irelia gap closing with her Q. Irelia is good at taking out squishies and with the recent Kindred nerfs, she is kind of a bad pick. In fact, unless you are really good with Kindred, I would just keep her in the jungle. She just dies in the top lane once the tank out scales her, plus you are not capitalizing on her passive stacking.

There are a lot of top laners that can deal with Irelia. She is an attack speed based champion so any champion with a slow can lane well against her.

Irelia will probably see more play with the tri-force changes, she is frustrating sometimes to lane against because she is easy to gank for. You either play a very tanky champion like Malphite Maokai, play a champion with some good range and burst like Graves Pantheon or play a champion that outscales her like Nasus Jax.

She was very under played even with a few past buffs in previous patches. The changes to rageblade also hurt her but the triforce changes put her in a better spot. Right now most of the Irelia players are either really good with her, or terrible. Irelia is a champ that has a loyal experienced player base, but there are others out there that are simply hopping on the Irelia band wagon and have no idea how to play her.

She hits her power spike in the mid-game typically, but doesn't really get better after that.

xBushx1 votes

Merc Treads help against her Big Time since her stun does magic damage. And reducing that stun duration results in her not being able to one shot you after.

Sunfire and IBG if you're a bruiser and it's easy mode.

RcGjWO640w1 votes

Good job, League community. Downvoting questions for improving your play against certain, difficult champions. Shows people right for not having LCS knowledge when they install the game.

Dies to Wolves1 votes

Ban her, cancerous disgusting champion

SaltyKracka1 votes

Use the rings of Nerf, Master, Suck, Town, and Heart to summon Captain Morello.

He's our hero. Gonna nerf that OPrelia down to zero.

The12thman941 votes

As a Irelia main (granted just bronze) I have the most problem with Garen. Also tanks like Malphite and Maokai can be a pain once they get frozen heart. Some people say that Irelia can't duel Jax, Voli, etc but I've never had a huge problem with them.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

idk play the dinosaur she can't really beat him in lane. in which is her strongest point. if she doesnt get kills shes useless.

Twitch Chat1 votes

ban

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