Unless Janna's Numbers Get Absolutely Gutted, She Will Remain as a Top Tier Support

iPooUnicorns··2 votes·823 views

The reason for this? Every single ability she has protects her ADC. No other Enchanter can match her ability to protect an ADC as well as the entire team.

  • Q: AoE Disengage
  • W: Single target slow
  • E: Shield with an AD increase (1 second downtime at max rank + max CDR)
  • R: AoE Disengage with AoE Healing

This makes it neigh impossible for the enemy team to dive her ADC, and makes mistakes much less punishing for her ADC as well. Her only true weakness is laning phase, but her utility and teamfight potential more than make up for it.

All of this contributes to her high pick rate and win rate, with the win rate going up with each division (aside from Gold -> Plat).

  • Overall Pick Rate: 17.48%
  • Challenger Winrate: 61.64%
  • Master Winrate: 56.29%
  • Diamond Winrate: 54.72%
  • Platinum Winrate: 53.92%
  • Gold Winrate: 54.26%
  • Silver Winrate: 52.41%
  • Bronze Winrate: 49.70%

If Riot truly wants to bring her in line with other supports without a full rework or inelegant number reductions (not including duration or range), she needs at least one of the following:

  • Removal of knock up from uncharged Q or add a minimum .5-1 second charge time, potentially scaling with rank.
  • E range/duration reduction or removal of bonus AD granted to target, or rework into a skill shot.
  • R range reduction or replace knockback with a slow.

If Riot instead chooses to simply nerf her numbers (which is what they're currently doing), she will either be virtually unaffected or useless (would require across the board nerfs) due to her unmatched utility/protection that she provides to her ADC and team.

15 Comments

Big Lincoln3 votes

make poke comps not dog shit for the first time in like 4 years and Janna would be fine

she's only an issue Because she negates melee aggressors (who are popular in soloQ) and one of her two counter-comps hasn't existed in ages. The other (tanks with supreme engage) are not popular in soloQ

iPooUnicorns2 votes

Tank supports require much more team coordination and competency of the ADC; which is why they are so strong in pro play, but lackluster in solo queue. Janna can negate her ADC's mistakes much better than a tank support, which is why she's so dominant in solo queue.

Cowgirl Ed2 votes

it's bcs she synergises (or however you spell that) too well with the support broken ass items needs bigger nerf and overall nerf to supp+supp items+botlane

iPooUnicorns1 votes

Even if support items get nerfed, she would still be a top tier support, simply from her kit alone.

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

Janna could do 0 damage and she would still be top tier

iPooUnicorns1 votes

It's almost as if the utility and protection in her kit is completely overloaded.

iPooUnicorns1 votes

I find it amusing that I get downvoted without counter arguments.

Onecimus1 votes

I'm not saying she isn't strong. I mainly play Nami, but I could not play Janna for a couple months, pick her up again and earn straight S's. She is undeniably strong, especially in the right hands.

BUUUUT, nerfing her is a bit awkward for several reasons, mostly to do with autofill.

1). People HATE getting autofilled... or so I hear. I'm a support main, so I don't hardly ever get filled (maybe once last season and not yet at all this year). So if Riot nerfs her, then less people will want to play support and then more people will get autofilled.

2). Venturing further down the rabbit hole: Janna is a simple champion. Again, this is undeniable. I think they have made her kit slightly more mechanically intensive over the last year, but she's still really easy to pick up. So if someone gets autofilled, they can easily just play Janna and it closes disparity between them and the support main on the other team.

2.5). People also hate getting off meta supports. They are not against the rules, but I can't tell you how excited I get when the other team gets an Ekko support. It will either be constant good fights, or we'll just eat them alive. More often it's the latter. But if you take away the easy, powerful supports then people will be more inclined to go with their off meta picks.

So yeah, for me personally, I think Janna having such a high WR with such a high PR is due to autofill. Which I feel they could get rid of. And then maybe nerf her a bit.

But those are just my 2¢ on this topic.

iPooUnicorns1 votes

While I don't disagree with autofill being problematic, Janna isn't the only simple/easy to play support champion, especially with Sona existing. The problem I'm trying to describe is that she has a low risk, high reward kit, paired with a low skill floor and high skill ceiling. As long as you know the basics of her, you can easily be relevant in protection of your ADC and team, and if you know her like the back of your hand, you're pretty much unmatched in your role as far as solo queue goes.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Bro just use morg who I hate the most out of any champ in this game, thresh , or brand

iPooUnicorns1 votes

I don't play support, so playing a counter support to her doesn't really do much, especially considering she can shut down Fighters and Assassins, the two classes I play the most.

Colton1471 votes

Janna got gutted and is badly in need of a revert or some compensation buffs.

She became no longer viable and is pretty much a auto-loss now.

iPooUnicorns1 votes

I'm not sure what world you're living in, she's the highest pick rate and win rate support at all ranks above silver. The only nerf she received was 5 damage on her W and 5 less base movement speed, which is a tiny love tap that will do nothing to how strong she is right now.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Counter argument, morg does more, brand will out poke her shields , I play ivern , his shield has less CD then hers and his q roots and u instantly jump on her also Daisy is a boss. Nami will out poke her and cc with q . Janna isn't that strong as you say

iPooUnicorns1 votes

None of what I was stating was about her laning phase, I agree that her laning phase is not overly powerful. But her power outside of laning phase more than makes up for this. Also as someone who doesn't play support, I don't really care about her laning phase, especially considering that she counters my two most played classes, fighters and assasssins. So that forces me to ban her so I don't have to play against her, but that leaves Teemo open if I'm playing top, and Kha'Zix open who is incredibly overtuned at the moment.

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