shaco players do you guys get warrior?

A Basic Island·Jan 27, 2016·1 votes·1,221 views

????

I just feel like I need AS asap, and devourer sucks on shaco imo

Usually i upgrade my smite and just leave it at that

edit:

this is what i used to build on shaco, granted i haven't played in quite some time and alot of items have been changed since

BotRK, Hydra, Zephyr, Mobility boots, Shiv, upgraded smite then sell late game

I really enjoyed this build, it allowed me to assassinate, melt towers, split push, and be a massive thorn in the side to my opponents with all the movement speed. But zephyr has been removed, botrk destroyed, and AS in general it feels like has been nerfed out the ass :/

24 Comments

Arcade AndrewJan 27, 20162 votes

Warrior is a noob trap. You ALWAYS get devourer. NO MATTER who you jungle as. Sated is fucking scary on a full tank jungler

AndrionarJan 27, 20161 votes

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Warrior is a noob trap. You ALWAYS get devourer. NO MATTER who you jungle as. Sated is fucking scary on a full tank jungler

Thats true. Full tank junglers benefits from Devourer a lot more, then from warrior.

BladeSteelJan 27, 20161 votes

You don't want attack speed on shaco really. You want Flat AD and thats pretty much it. You don't even want crit. Best builds are warrior,yomumus, maw or sterak's, hydra, some form of boots (whatever fits you), and last if you want more ad, a bloodthirster, or a defensive item. most high level shaco players get attack speed runes, and thats all the attack speed they get for the entire game. the only crit/as item you might get is a shiv since your Q makes it a guaranteed crit.

AndrionarJan 27, 20161 votes

Personaly I don't build crit on shaco, but you're very wrong. If you want to build shaco as full AD assasin, in my opinion, you should even go for crit.

BladeSteelJan 27, 20161 votes

Why should you got for crit? tell me why i'm wrong. His auto after he q's will not be affected by any crit you buy. Even if you buy an IE it will not effect that crit. so tell me why I am wrong.

AndrionarJan 27, 20161 votes

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Why should you got for crit? tell me why i'm wrong. His auto after he q's will not be affected by any crit you buy. Even if you buy an IE it will not effect that crit. so tell me why I am wrong.

You are wrong, kinda. Then shaclone wasn't so pupular everyone have been building crit shaco including me and it worked very well. The problem is, then you go for crit, if you still want to instakill squishys later one, you need more items.

Edited: Shaco wans't popular 1.5-2 years ago becouse everyone have been playing him as an assasin, this play syle doesn't fit most people and is very hard to make it work, becouse it requirs very good decicions making and great map awarness. The time then everyone hated having shaco in theyr team with a passion I was picking him in ranked, people were dodging and raging at me every game.

Besides then you're fed and ur building critical, you can kill people much faster comparing with normal build, usualy 2 autos are enought.

You can find a lot of popular high elo streamers from korean, chinise who play full ad assasin critical shaco and are in the master - challenger tiers.

BladeSteelJan 27, 20161 votes

So I'm kinda wrong...and yet you don't build crit, so if i'm wrong, you're building him wrong. Pick one or the other. You yourself said in another comment to build PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT I SAID TO BUILD....but I'm wrong? Idk why you're trying to say that I'm wrong, then saying that a popular high-elo streamer builds that way but its "wrong". and then you try to say that I can find a lot of "high elo streamers" who build "full ad assassin critical shaco" and yet...all the ones I know of say NOT to build crit. so...explain why you needed to point out that I'm wrong? when you just admitted that I'm mostly right just not "100%".

AndrionarJan 27, 20161 votes

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So I'm kinda wrong...and yet you don't build crit, so if i'm wrong, you're building him wrong. Pick one or the other. You yourself said in another comment to build PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT I SAID TO BUILD....but I'm wrong? Idk why you're trying to say that I'm wrong, then saying that a popular high-elo streamer builds that way but its "wrong". and then you try to say that I can find a lot of "high elo streamers" who build "full ad assassin critical shaco" and yet...all the ones I know of say NOT to build crit. so...explain why you needed to point out that I'm wrong? when you just admitted that I'm mostly right just not "100%".

You missunderstund me. If you dont want to go full crit shaco, you shouldn't build him as full ad assasin, 2 -3 ad items are enought.

If you want to go full ad, you should buld crit on shaco. More cdr - more mobility, more burst power from statik shiv and 2nd auto after q and the most important thing, you need a lot less time to kill your target.

Edited: I used to play crit shaco years ago, I had a few houndred games with crit alone. From time to time I enjoy him playing him as an assasin.

TakanuvaJan 28, 20161 votes

just want to insert myself in here, item 3031 DOES add crit damage to shaco's q, which adjust crit by -60%, -40%, -20%, 0%, then +20%. also, most items that go great with ohe shaco like item 3087 and item 3078 naturally include crit strike.

also, shaco doesnt have any escape, so high movespeed items like item 3742 or item 3142 help him out alot. and something you might try, item 3508 might be decent on him if you build at least one more crit item, he loves the ad, and the manna would not be a missed thing on him. also, ap is an option, item 1402 and item 3100 are great at clearing jungle apparently, and that build has alot of passive movespeed, you could pack a little extra ms in runes/masteries and forgo boots entirely, but im just theorycrafting here.

so yeah, fully leveled q with IE gives shaco a %270 crit i beleive, throw in a shiv for magic damage and some ad, something is going to die or get hurt. and we like that :D

AndrionarJan 28, 20161 votes

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just want to insert myself in here, DOES add crit damage to shaco's q, which adjust crit by -60%, -40%, -20%, 0%, then +20%. also, most items that go great with ohe shaco like and naturally include crit strike.

also, shaco doesnt have any escape, so high movespeed items like or help him out alot. and something you might try, might be decent on him if you build at least one more crit item, he loves the ad, and the manna would not be a missed thing on him. also, ap is an option, and are great at clearing jungle apparently, and that build has alot of passive movespeed, you could pack a little extra ms in runes/masteries and forgo boots entirely, but im just theorycrafting here.

so yeah, fully leveled q with IE gives shaco a %270 crit i beleive, throw in a shiv for magic damage and some ad, something is going to die or get hurt. and we like that :D

In my opinion, every build would work on shaco, if it wits your play style. I like essence reaver, becouse I gank and counter jungle a lot and for me, max cdr is a must thing on assasins like, shaco, kha, rengar

Big LincolnFeb 24, 20161 votes

Even if you buy an IE it will not effect that crit.

yes it does, it enhances the damage from his guaranteed crit. Shiv also does bonus damage because of your crit (which is ALSO boosted by IE for even MORE damage)

those are really the only 2 crit items you need and shiv is good for splitpushing, too

BladeSteelFeb 24, 20161 votes

or you could not get an ie and get a better item, such as maw or sterak's gage. There are much better items to get.

Big LincolnFeb 25, 20161 votes

or you could get an IE because they don't have an AP threat you need to worry about and do more damage than what you'd get out of maw

BladeSteelFeb 25, 20161 votes

or you could get a maw or a steraks and have more surviavabilty. if they have no ap, then you could get a deadmans plate! wow who knew that building some survivability would be better than damage on shaco! especially since he won't be one shotting anyone unless he's 8-0 at 15 min.

A Basic IslandJan 27, 20161 votes

i honestly dislike having a high AD, and much prefer having a high AS so i can proc my Shiv and BotRK more often. The clone also gets much more use out of AS than it does AD, which really helps with tower pushing

BladeSteelJan 27, 20161 votes

If you play him as an assasin you will not want AS. I don't know why you would get a botrk on him...its not a very good item for him imo.

AndrionarJan 27, 20161 votes

It's relay worth buying it, becouse then you upgrade your matchete, the rest of it costs only 1.6 k and you get - 60 AD, then YG - 3200 and R. Hydra - 3500. You would lose more then you would win.

Edited: If you would dodge Warrior, you would lose a lot of demage early. But If you could pull more then a few kills being pretty weak it would pay of later on.

LephogamJan 27, 20161 votes

Warrior is the best enchantment. They usually upgrade their smite, then move on to building other items.

A Basic IslandJan 27, 20161 votes

this is what i used to build on shaco, granted i haven't played in quite some time and alot of items have been changed since

BotRK, Hydra, Zephyr, Mobility boots, Shiv, upgraded smite then sell late game

AndrionarJan 27, 20161 votes

My build ^^

Warrior (sell late game and get, iceborn, ga, dead mens plat, banshes or mercurials) Swiftness boots Hydra Essence reaver (becouse of cdr and becouse IE doesn't provide extra 50 % demage for q) Statik Shiv Trinity force (sheen increases q demage drasticaly, also shaco benefits from every stat it gives) or youmus

Edited: this build works only if you have full armour pen page, becouse you can't rush YG early, othervise you would lose a lot of demage mid game.

MidWKingJan 27, 20161 votes

I build.. warrior > r.hydra >black cleaver> maw/yomu >trade my r.hydra for t.hydra> then tank items or botrk. boots i like lucidity/berserkers/ sometimes i get mobi boots if im having to run back and forth from bot to top. Best build for S6. You got enough damage to kill squishies and even bruisers and you have enough health to stay in the fight untill your Q is off CD to get out. then you go split push with your t.hydra. Shaco Shaco

Edit: forgot to mention 40% cooldown reduction with this build! item 3158

The AngryPoptartFeb 24, 20161 votes

I usually get tanky items that also give damage. I'll get warriors and black cleaver. And with runes and masteries that gets me to 45% cdr at level 18. For boots either tabi, mecs, or swiftness. Then situationally build from there. Typical choices are maw, steraks, dead mans, hydra, BT. This way I find myself eith enough damage to kill squishies in one burst but durable enough to take on tanky champs and be useful in late game team fights.

WeatheredFeb 24, 20161 votes

item 1400 . Devourer is not as good as you think, you want that early damage.

Shroom JunkieFeb 25, 20161 votes

That build is fucking terrible...

Go Warrior>Duskblade>SShiv>Infinity Edge The rest is kind of based on the team, Sheen for more burst and build triforce later on(like, last item), Maw for MR, couple other options, and GA if you feel like you need it.