Ranked MMR should influence normal MMR as well

The Cane Master··3 votes·520 views
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I think Ranked MMR should influence both the ranked MMR and normal MMR. That way high elo players won't be able to get matchmade with fresh level 30 silver people, who happen to have the same unranked MMR with the state of things right now.

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rtbf2216514121 votes

No. If that was the case, I'd be a higher rank if the opposite was suggested. It's fun watching people say you are bad when most of what you do is normals.

The Cane Master1 votes

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No. If that was the case, I'd be a higher rank if the opposite was suggested. It's fun watching people say you are bad when most of what you do is normals.

I don't understand what you meant by all this, please give some actual examples.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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I don't understand what you meant by all this, please give some actual examples.

Let's see.... Unranked.

Could be Plat if they went into ranked but only do norms.

Then they beat a Gold player bragging about their elo.

Idk why I needed to explain this?

The Cane Master1 votes

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Let's see.... Unranked.

Could be Plat if they went into ranked but only do norms.

Then they beat a Gold player bragging about their elo.

Idk why I needed to explain this?

I don't know why you make matchmaking to be about what says or feels whatever. It is about fairness, and with current state of things it's not fair at all. Let's say 5 challenger players (that usually have unmodified normal MMR of 1200 ~ silver elo) decided to play a normal game, they would get matchmade against 5 silver players. With my proposition, this would be impossible, and all players would get an equally skilled opponents both in ranked and normals (which is only fair).

rtbf2216514121 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cane Master,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x8ucaOd0,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-08T22:11:27.035+0000)

I don't know why you make matchmaking to be about what says or feels whatever. It is about fairness, and with current state of things it's not fair at all. Let's say 5 challenger players (that usually have unmodified normal MMR of 1200 ~ silver elo) decided to play a normal game, they would get matchmade against 5 silver players. With my proposition, this would be impossible, and all players would get an equally skilled opponents both in ranked and normals (which is only fair).

I don't know. I kinda like having people who know what they are doing on my team and growing rather being matched with and against brain dead people.

The Cane Master1 votes

I don't know. I kinda like having people who know what they are doing on my team and growing rather being matched with and against brain dead people.

Right now normals are exactly doing this, if there is a high elo player on the enemy team, your team will seem brain dead at best (if they aren't already) and get styled on but that enemy team.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Right now normals are exactly doing this, if there is a high elo player on the enemy team, your team will seem brain dead at best (if they aren't already) and get styled on but that enemy team.

Except you clearly didn't read that I rather have someone of high skill level to face rather than brain dead people on BOTH sides.

The Cane Master1 votes

Except you clearly didn't read that I rather have someone of high skill level to face rather than brain dead people on BOTH sides. You clearly are masochistic at some level, and one people ruining experience for 5 people while carrying 4 isn't fair the slightest.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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I can't read so I need to resort to Ad Hominems and someone who has no idea where they are coming from. I also don't want to have my skill level increased by facing higher ranked players.

Fixed.

Mysticman891 votes

Many people won't play their main champs or even their main roles in normals though, so while I might be a diamond level janna support player, I'm probably not even a silver level lee sin jg, and probably a goldish adc player.

People who don't play normals very often aren't going to throw off very many matches, and the ones who do are going to end up at an appropriate normals mmr for the level of play they're exhibiting there, and it's very possible that that level of play is quite different than their rank would indicate as they're playing with new champs/builds/roles.

MysterQ1 votes

Should at least be within a division or two (Gold-Plat not Bronze-Plat).

And then they can drop a little from there but still give it a floor.

Zelorxon1 votes

B...but... A diamond retard i argued with that covered me in ad hominems using my op.gg of a week i got trolled since it was the free ip week and i also had my pc fan half broken told me that my mmr must be low-ranked-something something-whatever.

So that means that it indeed works something something.

The Cane Master1 votes

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B...but... A diamond retard i argued with that covered me in ad hominems using my op.gg of a week i got trolled since it was the free ip week and i also had my pc fan half broken told me that my mmr must be low-ranked-something something-whatever.

So that means that it indeed works something something.

LOL

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