Why Isn't There an AP Spell Vamp Item?

Meep Man·Mar 11, 2018·2 votes·326 views

It's offered in Runes anyways. Why isn't there an item that gives Spell Vamp solely for AP?

17 Comments

Proxy345Mar 11, 20187 votes

Blame this champ alone lol

Vladimir

Meep ManMar 11, 20184 votes

It's already given to him in Runes though, and last time I checked, a single champion shouldn't dictate an entire HALF of the champion pool's options. Kind of like how Kog'Maw was reverted because he screwed on-hit items for the rest of the on-hit champions.

Proxy345Mar 11, 20181 votes

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It's already given to him in Runes though, and last time I checked, a single champion shouldn't dictate an entire HALF of the champion pool's options.

Well people complained way too much about him being unkillable and such but yeah he's the sole reason why all the AP spell vamp items are gone now.

Meep ManMar 11, 20182 votes

That's not why they removed Will of the Ancients though. People have never complained about Vladimir being unkillable except for shortly after his rework, when the item was already gone.

Should item 3812 not exist because Aatrox or Kayn exists?

SwiftKitten88Mar 11, 20181 votes

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That's not why they removed Will of the Ancients though. People have never complained about Vladimir being unkillable except for shortly after his rework, when the item was already gone.

Should not exist because or exists?

that not why it shouldnt exist.. but it should exist yeah... not with 33% burst damage reduction

that one item totally fuck up nearly every assassins in the game if an adc buys it. it combos with ITSELF. THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

or at least it fucks up Nidalee so hard its completely laughable

TèrminusMar 11, 20182 votes

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that not why it shouldnt exist.. but it should exist yeah... not with 33% burst damage reduction

that one item totally fuck up nearly every assassins in the game if an adc buys it. it combos with ITSELF. THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

or at least it fucks up so hard its completely laughable

What ADC even builds Death's Dance?

SwiftKitten88Mar 11, 20181 votes

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What ADC even builds Death's Dance?

Draven Twitch or ne1 who just wants to fucking troll me...

Nidalee is hit CRAZY hard by item 3812 because her takedown damage (which is her main source of damage, NOT her spear) deals increased damage based on % missing hp.

so not only will nidalee's burst likely not kill the target from the 33% burst damage reduction, changed to deal over 3 seconds..

but the fact that they didn't even LOSE that much hp yet means takedown is going to do a LOT less because you wont get almost any effect form the bonus miss % hp damage. and then 33% less on top of that. it completely fucks her over.

meanwhile the adc just turns around and kills you in 2-3 autos because your squishy as fuck.

this is why nid has such a shit time vs tanky champs.. because the vast majority of her damage is from her takedown on them having low hp.. if you cant get them to low.. your takedown will barely even register

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SwiftKitten88Mar 11, 20181 votes

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Blame this champ alone lol

spell vamp on mana expenditure then? idk, not like i would buy it on my champs anyways but

MorganFreemanBotMar 11, 20182 votes

Different 'styles' of champs are supposed to have different weaknesses.

It was - moderately - touched upon during the mage rework which removed Wota, that mages are supposed to be weak in the sustain department. Due to the safety with which many mages can clear waves, spell vamp was too powerful without much risk. Sort of opposite, but still important, it was garbage on most mages.. But the ones it was good on, holy shit, it made them unstoppable.

Ironically, burst was supposed to be one of the weaknesses of the adc class.. So Riot's not great at keeping to this stuff.

MagicFlyingLlamaMar 11, 20182 votes

item 3146

Good on basically any mage who can use spellvamp anyway.. Ahri Anivia Annie Bard (yep) Ekko Nidalee TwistedFate Veigar Zoe

Especially in ARAM, for obvious reasons, but it is a niche pick any time you need to outsustain.

SwiftKitten88Mar 11, 20181 votes

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Good on basically any mage who can use spellvamp anyway.. (yep)

Especially in ARAM, for obvious reasons, but it is a niche pick any time you need to outsustain.

nid??? are u crazy? nid has a self heal... why the fuck would she want spellvamp?

unless you actaully building a hybrid top nid there is no point.. and even then, an AD nid does hybrid damage anways because her takedown converts her auto to magic damage but STILL works with life steal.

meaning even if you build armor vs AD nid it wont help you if she pounces in and uses takedown.

that beaing said... AD has been bad ever since season 5.

and laning nid was turned into complete garbage after the removal of the full pounce reset until lvl 16.

you dont build item 3146 on nid...

the more i look at it im pretty sure your post was sarcasm...

MagicFlyingLlamaMar 11, 20181 votes

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nid??? are u crazy? nid has a self heal... why the fuck would she want spellvamp?

unless you actaully building a hybrid top nid there is no point.. and even then, an AD nid does hybrid damage anways because her takedown converts her auto to magic damage but STILL works with life steal.

meaning even if you build armor vs AD nid it wont help you if she pounces in and uses takedown.

that beaing said... AD has been bad ever since season 5.

and laning nid was turned into complete garbage after the removal of the full pounce reset until lvl 16.

you dont build on nid...

the more i look at it im pretty sure your post was sarcasm...

Actually i dont know why nid is in there, because all of that is entirely accurate.