Is Zed going to be as bad as people predict him to be?

YumaS2Astral··4 votes·1,006 views

There are lots of changes that benefit Zed on this new patch, namely the nerfs to mana regeneration, as well as QSS not removing his ult anymore. There is also something that everyone is forgetting: Black Cleaver is now cheaper, at the cost of losing only a very small amount of AD. This will benefit Zed a lot by allowing him to reach 40% CDR a lot easier.

Now let me start with this: Even with all those possible buffs, we can't be sure that Zed will actually be as strong as people think. Why? Well... Remember, before the pre-season came, that people predicted that DrMundo would be weak with all the changes? Well, it actually turned out that he was so broken that he had to be nerfed two times and he is still strong nowadays even though he is considered to be balanced.

Also, it is important to remember that item 3157 has been made cheaper; mages will now have an easier time rushing it, despite the fact that the active has been nerfed.

Thus, let's wait until the new patch actually comes to see if Zed will actually be broken.

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Galewings5 votes

Way I see it: Zed is already in a very comfortable spot as he is right now, maybe a little bit on the too strong side but it's somewhat difficult to say because he is banned almost every game.

The qss changes put him in the "definitely good, maybe a bit too strong" into the "already strong but gets clear counterplay against him taken away". Yes, Zhonya's is cheaper but it also has an increased cooldown which I believe lets Zed ult you twice before you get the cd on it back up. But the zhonya's change doesn't really matter for adcs who actually need the qss to deal with him. Him being able to pick off an adc for sure is what is going to put him in the pick/ban spot. Maybe not in competitive lcs level, but definitely in the lands of solo/dynamic queue

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

He's gonna be the same because everyone complaining about the QSS change are the same people that didn't even buy it against him

PhantomGG3 votes

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He's gonna be the same because everyone complaining about the QSS change are the same people that didn't even buy it against him

Akali hit it right on the spot

Zed faces mages or ap assassins all the time, they still have zhonyas. So zed in lane phase is going to be exactly the same. Hell many times when zed get's super fed Qss did not even do much against his ult, for he would still have the damage to compeltely nuke you.

This does not effect low elo in the slightest, for fact is mot people in low elo don't even use qss correctly. So what will change is high elo where the good adc mains who insta bought it and used/timed it correctly, will be living hell. ANother reason this does not effect low elo is the fact low elo zed mains aren't even good and often god negative or just barely break even.

This only effects high elo, and even than it only effects adcs, and a few ad mid laners.

WoonStruck1 votes

And some top laners that commonly bought QSS for champions like Trundle.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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And some top laners that commonly bought QSS for champions like Trundle.

This is a different issue, though. We are talking about how the QSS changes might affect Zed, although it will also affect so many champions, which will be a problem.

Icestar11861 votes

No. The boards always overestimate everything. Zed will be strong and need nerfs, but the boards always act like the sky is falling if Riot changes anything... and also if they don't.

Indominus 13371 votes

No good Zed will ever build item 3071 unless he is playing against 5x armour stacking champions on enemy team, which rarely hapens. item 3071 is much better on Talon. Zed has other options.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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No good Zed will ever build item 3071 unless he is playing against 5x armour stacking champions on enemy team, which rarely hapens. item 3071 is much better on Talon. Zed has other options.

Black Cleaver is not just viable due to the armor penetration. There is also the movement speed passive which helps with enemies that can kite. And also the 20% cooldown reduction.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

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Black Cleaver is not just viable due to the armor penetration. There is also the movement speed passive which helps with enemies that can kite. And also the 20% cooldown reduction.

item 3142 would be a better item on zed than black cleaver imo.

Veraska1 votes

I'm actually expecting fizz to be the best assassin coming out of this patch, zhonyas is cheaper and has cdr on it, abyssal has cdr, all his favorite items have cdr on em now so he doesn't need cdr runes to maximize his damage output

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