Riot, Patch 6.22: (Assassin Rework)

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When we looked at the pool of assassins, one common problem stood out: a lack of meaningful interactivity. It isn’t the damage that is the problem, but the feeling of not having any chance to outplay or even react to them. As a result, fed assassins feel pointless to play against. We also want to make assassins more fair, which isn’t the same as reducing assassin damage. In some cases, that means giving you more ability to fire back. In other cases, you need to be able to see an assassin coming and try to escape them.


Also Riot, Patch 7.22: Everyone is an Assassin! Now tanks can kill you in 1.5sec, and ADCs can kill your entire team in 0.8sec. Enjoy!

15 Comments

wildfox998 votes

It isn’t the damage that is the problem, but the feeling of not having any chance to outplay or even react to them.

not Kayn like JarvanIV something Twitch is Vayne changed Rengar

Tails90166 votes

Hey. You have at least 0.5 seconds before J4 actually get's on you, so you can flash away.

Oh wait he has flash and hexflash

wildfox991 votes

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Hey. You have at least 0.5 seconds before J4 actually get's on you, so you can flash away.

Oh wait he has flash and hexflash

(salty time!1!11!)

yes,i will surely flash every time he ult,his ult CD is so long that even flash will be up before he can engage me again [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

AleksaTeemo3 votes

The problem was that was assasins role.Quick burst.But unlike adcs they cant siege nor kill tanks nearly as fast.IDK why that assasin update happend with all that delayed dmg.

NocturnalSheild2 votes

Except none of that is true.

Even a 6 item takes 4-5 seconds to kill you. And he has the most damage of any tanks.

Śhunpo1 votes

C u n t no. I'm getting one shot by every single ADC right now, along with every single mage AND tank support. Sure, tanks up the top lane don't "oneshot" you, but they're still impossible to kill and they chunk like 50% of your HP in one rotation cause "lul max % HP damage".

Remove Jungle2 votes

Only thing I hate about these delays on assassins that have a delay is this.

Even if you get fed you still have to wait for 1.5 seconds.

meanwhile, if twitch gets fed ff 15

Troll for Trump2 votes

Why do bruisers like Riven, J4, and Wukong kill targets faster than actual assassins? Feelsbad

leakinb1 votes

They can do almost the same work as assassins but they are more durable [slayer-jinx-catface]

Troll for Trump1 votes

They do the same work but they really aren't that durable.

I take issue with them "Stealing" assassin playstyles, but durability isn't one of the reasons they're flatout stronger.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Because they can't close the gap as fast as assassins. The actual time it takes to kill a champion includes the time it takes to reach them, for a melee character. That part of the time is very invisible to the player getting killed but it's pretty much all the player doing the killing has to think about and measure.

Also, Riven is not a fucking bruiser. Ignoring the utter uselessness of the term, 'bruiser' means a tanky DPS champion at the end of the day. Riven is many things but she is NOT tanky.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Because they can't close the gap as fast as assassins

Honestly, they can.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

ADCs killing your entire team in less than a second... maybe if they were all lvl 1 and the ADC was lvl 18 and a tank killing you in 1.5 seconds? so you mean you were a squishy and the tank built damage? since that's the only way for a tank to kill you that fast

Śhunpo1 votes

Yeah man, it's not like assassins needed to be fed or anything, definitely. You're really spot on Riot.....

It's like they just thought "hey, we want our ADCs on /r/LeagueofLegends" to feel better about themselves, let's just rework every single assassin, nerf them and then devote our time into making this season entirely about ADCs.

Sure, assassins are frustrating to play against when fed, but honestly, who isn't frustrating to play against when ahead, that's the entire point of being ahead. The old assassins just did their job extremely well because their entire existence was based around eliminating squishies (or if you're Kat being patient until the opportune time came to go to town with resets). If a class is entirely based around killing things then of course they'll do their job well lmao.

Additionally, Riot promised that they would make assassins better "teamplayers" after the update. This did not happen. Instead we simply got assassins with delays who still did the exact same jobs only worse.

Ahris1 votes

The fact that the only way to beat an adc is if they mess up is dumb. If assassins play it well they should always be able to kill their target, not have their burst only relevant midgame

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