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Ragebade is the problem, it always has been the problem. Gut it instead of champions that use it.

Yimmortal·4/6/2016, 12:33:26 PM·3 votes·818 views

I felt compelled to write this seeing more Yi and Kayle nerfs on the PBE. Both champions have been in a perfectly balanced state for the longest time until Riot came up with the reworked rageblade that is stupidly cost effective for the stats it gives. The most insulting thing is that Riot refuses to awknowlege that there is anything wrong with that too (+64% attack speed, +54 attack damage and +72 ability power at max stack with an on hit effect for only 2800 gold really??) judging from how they nerf champions that use it instead of the item itself. If anything, this upcoming nerf on the PBE is just gonna force Kayle to be even more reliant on rageblade and Yi to build even more tanky to get live long enough to get more resets off. This is just gonna lead to Riot gutting them again and both champions will fall into the classic rito balance cycle of nerf champion -> nerf item -> leave said champion to rot. Just gut rageblade already, leave the champions alone.

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doubleguac4/6/2016, 1:44:34 PM2 votes

Both champions have been in a perfectly balanced state for the longest time until Riot came up with the reworked rageblade that is stupidly cost effective for the stats it gives.

New rageblade was released at the same time as the new mastery system, which was also incredibly beneficial to Yi. Look at Fervor of Battle. At max level, it adds up to 112 bonus on-hit damage, which Yi can double with his passive, and double with sated devourer.

On top of the new masteries, all of these changes are coming on the heels of the juggernaut items, which also benefit Yi. Tank Yi isn't as strong anymore, but Sterak's Gage is still an incredibly efficient mid-game defensive purchase.

There are a lot of reasons Yi has blown up this season. At some point, it doesn't make sense to nerf every single new thing that Yi is using--you just need to nerf Master Yi.

As for Kayle, I don't fully understand why she's getting nerfed. I've been seeing her pick up a little popularity in my games, and I've never really enjoyed playing against her, but this nerf did seem to come out of left field a bit.

Zarvanis4/6/2016, 1:40:57 PM1 votes

I've always thought the best way to go about nerfing an item is to first look at which Champions use it as a core item. If it's only used by Top Tier champions, nerf the item. If it's a mandatory item for mid to low tier champions, nerf the top tier champs that use it.

As far as I'm aware, the only Champions who often build Rageblade item 3124 are: Kayle MasterYi Jax Udyr Teemo* (Shyvana Shyvana does have a high winrate with it, but it's not built often)

As far as their winrates are concerned, TeemoTeemo is the only one who doesn't have a global winrate over 51% in any role.

So Rageblade item 3124 is at least somewhat part of the problem. The safest course of action I can think of is to give it a very small nerf, then see whose winrates drop, and by how much. If there's a noticeable drop, then you know Rageblade is the problem.

The only ones whose winrates probably won't be affected much are Udyr, Shyvana, and maybe Teemo.

*If there are any I missed, be sure to let me know.

Just Shimakaze4/6/2016, 1:57:58 PM1 votes

Or they could just put yi (and Jax Shyvana Udyr XinZhao ) where they belong and nerf sated and guinsoos into the ground. But before that nerf yi, jax, udyr, and xin a ton because they deserve it for the havor they've brought upon summoners' rift so far this season.