Stop pretending counter champions like Malphite/Rammus are OP.

FistOfSharkiesha·2/25/2016, 7:15:34 PM·4 votes·1,368 views

These champions are straight up food for me when I face them. Wanna know why? Because my team comp isn't 3 AD assassins, a money starved support, and an ADC. The 3 counter champions Rammus Malphite Galio have historically had very high winrates because they punish bad team compositions. They've had a low pick rate too, until now because even more people are stacking AD assassins. Malphite was nerfed recently and it's just unbelievable to me. The only strong thing in his kit is his ultimate, the rest of his kit depends on him being a counter to whoever he's laning against, or against a team with a lot of AD and little AP. Pick Malphite against Vladimir and you basically just lost the game before it even started. Team composition is the biggest deciding factor of games, especially when the game consists of players with similar skill levels. These champions are the biggest walls standing between being able to pick 5 assassins on a team and win 15 minutes in.

tl;dr Malph didn't deserve his nerf. He's not OP or even just a tad too strong, he's perfectly balanced around dominating games where he is allowed to stack armor. I'm afraid this is going to set a bad precedent and the counter champions are going to be weak even when used in scenarios they're meant to thrive.

10 Comments

Br4ndon2/25/2016, 9:02:12 PM3 votes

I'm totally okay with tank Malphite being unkillable and engaging fights perfectly. What sucks is when he kills your ADC or AP instantly because how absurdly high his damage is. As a tank his counter to ADC is his knock up and AS slow. That should buy time for his carries/assassins to kill the enemy ADC. Instead he assassinates them while being insanely tanky.

Psi212/25/2016, 7:21:54 PM2 votes

Tank ratios on abilities and reflective damage needs to be nerfed.

Tank damage on a whole is too high.

Phoenix Kotori 2/25/2016, 7:27:57 PM2 votes

Malph definitely fucking deserved this, he had a 51.98% win rate against vlad.

He literally had a positive win rate against every single top laner in plat+ besides Mundo, Rammus, Zac, Nautilus, & Singed... in otherwise only tanks could beat him and he shits on AP champions as well as AD.

They've had a low pick rate too

Play Rate 13.4% 1 / 59 lol

Also mage still control 17 of 20 most played middle laners (& 3 of top 5) and jungle is pretty well split on class types.

Spaceman5pff2/25/2016, 7:31:23 PM2 votes

Honestly, Malphite was a bit out of whack, he was coming out on top more often than not even when he needed to stack up mr.

He was being picked for engage without regard for the damage type of the enemy, and not suffering vs heavy AP

Crossette2/25/2016, 11:19:55 PM1 votes

Rammus and Malphite need base damage nerfs and they'll be tolerable.

Even more so for Rammus.