Can we please fix Shyvana's Ultimate hitbox?

FistOfSharkiesha·2/3/2016, 9:53:54 AM·79 votes·3,694 views

It appears to be this huge aoe but in reality it's a tiny sliver that misses everything you touch with the hitbox. I might actually hit it if it shows me the true hit radius.

For perspective I'm fairly certain the radius in which it can carry an enemy is more narrow than Thresh's hook, yet the hitbox is extremely wide. If Riot is fixing Shen's dash hitbox they need to fix this too.

56 Comments

Very Epic Guy2/3/2016, 1:46:38 PM17 votes

She should probably also get immunity to disables during the dash. It just seems odd to me that Hecarim, who's ult may have more devastating effects on a teamfight, can't be stopped while she can

exiledFromBadmen2/3/2016, 10:37:54 AM14 votes

In my opinion, Shyvana needs both a visual and a gameplay overhaul. She's in the middle of a juggernaut and a diver; she doesn't excel at doing one. On the visual side, her dragon form looks like a lizard instead of a dragon and in human form, she doesn't look terrifying nor like a dragon/human hybrid at all.

Shyvana was my first jungler. Her kit doesn't have depth. Especially in the late game, all I do is E W and right clicking over and over again. That is not unique; that doesn't include any difference from someone like Trundle.

Raiku Kawisa2/3/2016, 4:32:22 PM14 votes

I would rather have Shyvana's ultimate be unstoppable before anything else. It pisses me off when my only way to engage and close the gap gets fucked up by a Thresh flay.

Deus Imperator2/3/2016, 7:34:45 PM8 votes

As a shyvana main here are some of my concerns.......

-I Only use ult to gank a single person or escape out of a tight spot, useless everywhere else

-My landing hitbox damage doesnt work 7 out of 10 times Or i get interrupted by any kind of CC

-Dragon form in general feels underwhelming, even the jungle dragon looks more menacing,dont even mention mega gnar

-Rage system is just used on her ult, nowhere else

-maybe add alternate skills for her dragon form like mega gnar? a fire blast,FusRoDah, mundo fire AOE?

-Nitpick here, but i prefer her ironscale skin over the classic, never understood why they made her blue skinned and scaly :V

-More nitpick, but it would be awesome that instead of dragon ult, she turns half dragon (like her title), think of fire emblem corrin, or that art of shyvana floating around with her arms transformed into dragon claws, horns and a tail for a short period of time

thats all for now, i bet i sound biased

AllHailWestNoxus2/3/2016, 10:36:23 PM6 votes

I love charming her out of ultimate. It makes me think of the dragon from Shrek.

Jofeyy2/4/2016, 6:05:55 AM6 votes

One lee sin kick can send someone flying into their team but a DRAGON can only carry someone two teemo lengths before they awkwardly pass through. GG riot.

Deus Imperator2/3/2016, 10:10:24 PM5 votes

I cant be the only one that thinks like this

Shyvana Ults

"Now i am a semi big fire lizard, FEAR ME!"

Gnar Ults Or 6 stacks cho

"YOU ARE ALL GONNA FREAKING DIE" Most enemies flee on sight

Just me?

Jasiwel2/3/2016, 7:03:47 PM5 votes

I agree big time to this kind of buff. I've been playing a great deal of Shyv this past month and she can be a lot of fun. However, she can be no fun when her strongest initiating mechanic is hit by one displacer or her ult hitbox misses by not even a Teemo when visually she's eating the target.

I'm not too certain about a major rework though. Part of why I like Shyv is her straightforwardness of "Rampaging Dragon" and that she doesn't have too many complex mechanics.

QoL buffs are definitely the way to go. It'd be awesome if Dragon Form could not only become more reliable for engaging, but also have some kind of Tenacity to reduce how friggin kiteable she can be.

MunchCrunchLunch2/3/2016, 11:39:05 AM3 votes

very true. sometimes you be carrying people halfway through the jump and then they fall of that tiny hitbox. and whoops. bad gank. shyvanna dragon form needs buffs. not numbers. but it needs to be a more fun. and a more rewarding form. give her a dragon form ultimate. and better changes. she needs visual changes. and a bit gameplay. shes not bad by any means but she doens't play the way you think when you think about a dragon

Stellafreyja2/4/2016, 7:08:13 AM2 votes

I really just hate ulting into someone and going over them...

Dragonlord71372/4/2016, 1:56:07 AM2 votes

I think you mean fix her ult ingeneral as certain cc effects cause it to flip out and even disappear without a trace very similar to Aatrox Q Dark flight.

GlockHammer2/4/2016, 10:24:26 PM2 votes

Yeah, that moment when you ult onto Vayne just to get condemned into a wall and violated...

Aside from that the only issue I have with her is the fact that her ult brings little more to the table than gapclosing, it could stand to feel a little more rewarding.

Edit: Since she's already slightly tankier when in dragon form, why not expand on this and make her the first champion that resists true damage in dragonform, like resists 50% of all true damage while in dragon form <3 :D Yeahyeah, I know, true damage is supposed to be true damage cause no reduction ever blablabla. Nonetheless, if I can't have this I'd be satisfied wiht just having her ult hitbox fixed.

But still. It would definately make her an interesting pick in a meta where true damage is so prevalent... Garen, Darius, Yi, Vayne, Ahri, etcetc.

FantasySniper2/4/2016, 12:37:02 AM2 votes

There's been times when I've jumped straight through people. Even the enemy team just stops and questions it.

Solari Fortune2/3/2016, 2:20:32 PM1 votes

I remember awhile ago they had some Shyv changes. Like her E bouncing to new targets if you killed something that had the debuff. and her ult creating this circle of fire around her that damaged people who stood on it

MyTeamIsAwsome2/4/2016, 3:36:29 AM1 votes

Fix shen taunt at the same time... I am tired of missing some taunt that i actually landed on someone

The Deckowner2/4/2016, 9:36:53 PM1 votes

vayne condem can negate shyvana's ult, op.

Borbland2/3/2016, 8:08:44 PM1 votes

Also, make that her ult cant be interrupted. Yes its a buff but its also logical, Once I played Volibear and I hit her with my Q while she was ulting. She nearly finished her ult dashed and she got flung back to Voli, with the distance between both this was interesting to see

Dominick Destine2/4/2016, 10:29:16 PM1 votes

Sure would be nice if Dragon's Descent wasn't the slowest gap closer in the game.

If she moved at the same speed as Lee Sin's Q, that would be balanced... one is an ultimate, the other is not... sigh Riot.

Naristracrates2/3/2016, 9:47:06 PM1 votes

I think her ult engage coupled with randuins is absolutely devastating to the enemy team.

Profirix2/3/2016, 9:52:07 PM1 votes

I think Shyvana has more problems than her dragon form hitbox. It is the fact that her dragon form brings almost nothing additional to the table. I made a post on this a week ago:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/OKEHv7ER-shyvana-can-we-look-at-her-ultimate-and-provide-some-qol

Her entire kit should integrate her dragon form in some more meaningful way.

Keti2/3/2016, 7:25:49 PM1 votes

The problem would be that this is a huuuuuuuge buff and shyv would have to trade raw power for it, which is really the one reason to pick her.

this has always been a huge frustration of mine though as someone who's played hundreds of shyv games.

WolfChases2/3/2016, 10:28:35 PM1 votes

The only reason I play Shyvana often is IceDrake Skin and that recall animation on IceDrake skin. That's all folks. She is strong in 1v1 if fed but that ultimate only looks BADASS and nothing else. Janna's Q can interrupt the Dragon flight??? The hell? All the enemy team has to do when Shyvana ults in their faces is to spread up and kite the hell out of her while she spits that E towards them doing literally ZERO damage. Isn't dragon's breath supposed to be devastating?