Assuming fiora has 100 bonus AD (about 2 items in) this change is actually stronger before breaking even at currents live level 12.
Could the community get some confirmation on why that was done, because it is looking to me like the single most complained issue with her kit is now being buffed. And with the improved AD scaling she is simply going to get out of control faster.
Zlysium3 votesSo in reality she got pretty gimped. It's her late game that was monstrous when she got even slightly ahead. She was only too safe in the laning phase. Now she's slightly better off early (maybe the base change is actually too big and she's worse early) but her late got gimped. The slow got demolished and between the lost scaling and the loss base she'll have to build complete glass cannon to deal the same level of damage as she does on live. But that's actually a good thing, a tankier Fiora is scarier.
To Memeglaive Garen complaining about her not being overpowered and nerfed anyway. Stfu. She was broken beyond belief. Go watch videos of Fioras able to keep up with Ghost+runic+swifties+alacrity+3 stack monkeys agility+bear stance udyr who is constantly stunning her when she gets close. That shit's fucking broken. Her dash doesn't get her far, but the cooldown is waytoo low if she hits anything. 8 seconds base cd, add say just 30% cdr. Now it is a 5.6 seconds. Say she hits anything with it to get the minus 60%. Now she has a 2.2 second cooldown fucking gapcloser that deals damage and procs a %maxhp true damage passive that also heals her. Now say she has phage passive from some item. You're fucked end of story. With the right build you won't burst her, she'll W your cc unless it's an instant like some ultimates. And you cannot get away AT ALL. Even if she did zero damage and couldn't kill a fly that right there would be grounds for op. At the very least overloaded as hell. So go complain elsewhere that your freelo champ got nerfed.
Sneakyy XD3 votes[{quoted}](name=Shadow Hazard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wmqqvjlE,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-11T02:15:52.045+0000)
Assuming fiora has 100 bonus AD (about 2 items in) this change is actually stronger before breaking even at currents live level 12.
Could the community get some confirmation on why that was done, because it is looking to me like the single most complained issue with her kit is now being buffed. And with the improved AD scaling she is simply going to get out of control faster.
The base percentage got reduced from 3% to 2%.
TehNACHO2 votesHere's the thing.
Fiora is not actually that strong. She's just doors that never open the way you think they should annoying. Statistically speaking she is just below a 50% win rate and ranks 23 out of 57 on champion.gg's overall performance ranking. The problem however is that she has the design, look, and feel of a light fighter and is currently being used as a medium/heavy fighter. What we want is to promote her offensive builds more than her defensive (and remember, her slow is also getting nerfed, so she doesn't have nearly as much tacked on power while still being defensive).
AlwaysByMySide1 votesHere's the thing.
Fiora is not actually that strong. She's just doors that never open the way you think they should annoying. Statistically speaking she is just below a 50% win rate and ranks 23 out of 57 on champion.gg's overall performance ranking. The problem however is that she has the design, look, and feel of a light fighter and is currently being used as a medium/heavy fighter. What we want is to promote her offensive builds more than her defensive (and remember, her slow is also getting nerfed, so she doesn't have nearly as much tacked on power while still being defensive).
It's ironic. The boards constantly whine about a lack of build diversity, but when Fiora can build some defense and still be viable everyone loses their minds.
Dreadlocks1 votesIt can still be altered.. only the 2nd? day i think since they made the change.
Shadow Hazard1 votesSeems like quite the oversight. I noticed the math right when I saw it on s@20 but I didn't have the time to post about it right as I saw it.
Although I doubt there can really be any number balance tweaking to such an absolute form of damage that also scales up with stats.
Dreadlocks1 votesYeah idk why they put it up to 4% when it barely got to that based on level...
AlwaysByMySide1 votes[{quoted}](name=Shadow Hazard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wmqqvjlE,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-11T02:15:52.045+0000)
Assuming fiora has 100 bonus AD (about 2 items in) this change is actually stronger before breaking even at currents live level 12.
Could the community get some confirmation on why that was done, because it is looking to me like the single most complained issue with her kit is now being buffed. And with the improved AD scaling she is simply going to get out of control faster.
Late game it is nothing more than a nerf. 4%<4.5%. This is on top of having less base damage than before.
You already got a champion who wasn't overpowered nerfed by constantly whining, stop trying to get her nerfed more.
Revali1 votesI think it's trying to promote her glass cannon style over her tanky one.
but itll just make her tank route even better.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesThats the point. They buffed her ratio's early so she would build damage instead of tank. What did you think they were straight up nerfing her damage. She is supposed to do damage.
Ravenhale1 votesI think you're missing the fact that her base passive has been reduced to 2%.
Weiner the Pooh1 votesStupid people will be stupid. Its a nerf late game and actually early too.
Abyssphere1 votesWhat are you talking about? Passive at level 1 is currently 3% + 2.8% per 100 AD. On the PBE it's now 2% + 4% per 100 AD for all the entire game. That means that if you have 100 bonus AD at level 1, you'll currently do 5.8% max HP and on the PBE you'll do 6% max HP.
But then you remember that you don't start the game with 100 bonus AD. If you give me a level at which to expect 100 bonus AD for Fiora I am almost certain that the maths can be done to show that she'd do more damage on live with that much AD than she will on the PBE.
Critmaster Garen1 votesthey got nerfed? base value is reduced by 1% from 3% to 2% bonus ad scaling got nerfed from 4.5% to 4%
honestly, this is shit. in their attempts to nerf bruiser fiora, theyre also dumping on adc fiora. why didnt they remove the base damage on her passive and increased the bonus ad scaling portion up to 8% instead?
nothing about these changes discourages her from building bruiser while giving her a bit more to work on a squishy glass cannon build. instead theyre just wrecking the champion overall.