Okay guys how do we make fervor less shitty

then certain champs would get more stacks early on leading to an unfair advantage in laning.

GG

Not really, if you'd just add ability stacking Fervor against champions, there would be ones that simply ramped up way too fast.

Maybe they could add the ability to get 2 stacks with an ability on a 5 second cooldown or so - allowing you to get a little headway with abilities, but not making it overwhelming.

maybe you should get less stacks from abilities, but yes it is really bad on ranged

Even lowing ability stacking to 1 instead of 2 AND I'LL BE FINE.

Without ability stacking and it capping at 10 stacks, a ranged champ legitimately has to auto attack champions 10 times (Pretty much the whole teamfight) before the mastery is stacked, where prior it was less stacks and abilities got it stacked faster. It's already very weak on adcs due to the stacking being so slow, Even on kindred, easily the best user of old fervor with the mastery basically carrying their late game damage and single handedly making them viable, often prefers thunderlords now. Not because thunderlords is very good, but simply because yes, fervor is actually that bad now. By the time you get even close to 10 autos in, the teamfight is usually over, and this is on top of the fact that the damage is gimped substantially for on hit ranged who liked hurricane (Kayle, Teemo, Kindred etc) who were not currently overpowered. Right now I think fervor is only good on renekton because his W remains an abuse case for fervor and he likes the AD it offers.

Suggesting raising the stack count to 20 doesn't even seem like a reasonable suggestion. not even melee champions could fully stack that and the reward would have to be substantially greater than 60 ad.

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Regardless of whether the new fervor that takes 10 attacks and a bunch of scaling items to be useful is more healthy design for the mastery it doesn't perform anywhere near the level of warlords. Unless the plan is to nerf ad carries as a whole by bringing down warlords as well we're going to need more substantial buffs than a 1s increase to a total of 5s stack duration.

I think the whole AD bonus instead of on hit damage is a mistake simply because it has anti synergy with the champs and items it's supposed to be good on. You'd think it would be good with Kalista but it's 10% less effective due to her 90% scaling autos. You'd think it would be good with hurricane but it has 25% effectiveness on the side bolts. You'd think it would be good with AS bork builds but it does fuck all for damage until you're critting like a madman.

tldr fervor a shit.

the on hit damage was too strong on ad carries by midgame and made bruiser assassins even possible. there were too many abuse cases with the old version of the mastery next to it being straight up overpowered.

the problem isnt the current fervor. its on-hit champions themselves being too weak, or their itemization lacking. and their items are being worked on.

They increase the AD gained to 8 at Level 18, but decreased the max stacks to 8, so the max AD gained is now 64 from 60.