How does Ahri and Orianna take skill?

Cµpcakke··3 votes·1,168 views

Call me a crying bronze noob but hear me out.

When ever I go mid I'm usually placed against an Orianna, Ahri or Yasuo (I've fought Yasuo so much I've learnt how to counter him). And I sometimes get destroyed by them. Ahri misses her charm but her fox fire and spirit rush kills me and Orianna ults herself but her constant q - w combo kills me. And i just sit there at my monochrome screen thinking "She missed everything but still killed me?"

I mostly play Syndra Heimerdinger or Cassiopiea mid btw. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

16 Comments

The Bearded Bard5 votes

Funny coming from someone who plays three champions who can miss everything and still kill with all targeted damage.

Catastrop1 votes

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Funny coming from someone who plays three champions who can miss everything and still kill with all targeted damage.

Syndra and Heim sure, but if someone actually dies to non poisoned E spam I have to wonder if they just stood AFK for like 30 seconds.

jwebb01134 votes

so why not play those champs and see for yourself

if these champs beat you and you dont see how they take skill then learn them and play them and you will answer your own question

Cµpcakke1 votes

Because I dont like playing easy champs. I find them boring, hence why im trying to main someone like Camille or Azir.

Catastrop1 votes

You're playing current day Syndra and you trash talk "easy champions". Your entire play style is literally " spam q press r".

Cµpcakke1 votes

Yeah people can just press R with syndra and get kills, but they shouldn't rely on it. Think about it, if a Syndra stacks her q and then ults, yeah she gets the kill but what if she gets jumped by the jungler like Rammus or Kha'zix? What would someone who cant play Syndra do in a situation like this? Yeah they could just e them away but champs like them still have gap closer and could kill Syndra. And if you want to play that game "you main this.." You main Veigar, Veigar is an r champion. Case closed. [slayer-jinx-catface]

ZapMyHeart2 votes

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Because I dont like playing easy champs. I find them boring, hence why im trying to main someone like Camille or Azir.

Syndra is easy mode though.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Because you are a self-proclaimed bronze noob, getting hit by their skillshots must be the reason why you keep dying to them.

Both Ahri and Ori have to chip you down a bit before they can all in you (unless super fed), so it's pretty much your fault that you took their poke damage over and over again.

Ahri herself is relatively easy, but her early game is meh due to high mana costs.

Ori is ball-reliant, which requires good micro management. If you are getting wrecked by an Ori, then chances are, you are either A) Super bad or B) The Ori player is super good.

If you don't buy item 3102 or a simple item 1033 against them, you deserve to get steamrolled by those 2.

Psyrix1 votes

.... Have you even tried Orianna?

Zed genius1 votes

Ahri takes absolutely no skill to play, she is a little bit easier than annie** imo**, ori is a little bit harder than that, but still among the most basic and simple to play champions in the mid lane

Cµpcakke1 votes

I saw some gold ppl saying they takes skill. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Zed genius1 votes

so what's your point?

Raxistaicho1 votes

I mostly play Syndra Heimerdinger or Cassiopiea mid btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKRzfU3dHGQ

Cµpcakke1 votes

Would you hate me even more if I said I play Azir [slayer-jinx-catface]

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Plays Syndra, complains about champions that miss everything and still kill you. Kappa

Mysticman891 votes

Every champion takes skill, or everyone who plays that champion would end up at the same elo.

There exist diamond+ players who main any given champion, and since you've faced people on those champions in bronze, it seems that they do in fact take skill.

Mr Killalot1 votes

Ori takes a lot of skill because she requires a very high level of micromanagement. Being able to position both her and her ball effectively takes a lot of practice and game knowledge. On top of that, being able to use her skills most effectively (who to w or e, or when to use them for damage or utility) takes lots of game knowledge.

All three of the champions you play have MORE kill pressure on her than SHE has on you, so if you're dying against her, you're straight up disrespecting her or getting outplayed. Additionally, she is weak to ganks because she has no escapes. Surviving a gank on Ori is all positioning, correct skill usage, and most importantly, how good you are at dodging skillshots.

Lastly, hitting a good ult on her can be quite difficult in a well organized teamfight. Typically, anything less than a 3-man ulti is a bust, and doubly so if you get no squishies. Unless your squishies just walk within range, getting into a position where she can ult them means she's putting herself in a position to get locked down and blown up by the frontline.

Edit: I'm a Mastery 7 Orianna player. I've been maining her for the past few months and almost exclusively play her when I play mid. While I consider myself better than most everyone I've seen play her at my elo level, I concede that I am mediocre with her. I still have trouble with max ball range, don't get the most out of her e, and have difficulty with certain matchups. She takes a LOT of practice to be even a competent Ori player.

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