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Riot, What the f*ck

Cµpcakke··98 votes·20,902 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQDui20ZpNY

Are you kidding me, are you actually joking. Why? Why does Renekton, of all champions get a shield breaking W. Irelia's wasn't this bad, she just dealt bonus damage to shields she didn't outright deplete them entirely.

This is the biggest joke and mistake riot have ever made.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

78 Comments

Unusual midlaner54 votes

This shit could’ve belonged on someone like trundle but nope more Renekton worship

Kazekiba23 votes

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This shit could’ve belonged on someone like trundle but nope more Renekton worship

Trundle does NOT need more mechanics that results in him being 85% pickban/75%wr in proplay

RipReviveFkRito25 votes

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Trundle does NOT need more mechanics that results in him being 85% pickban/75%wr in proplay

Sadly, yes. The only reason he's picked is because he's a Sejuani counter. SoloQ Trundle on the other hand is unplayable.

floo14 votes

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Trundle does NOT need more mechanics that results in him being 85% pickban/75%wr in proplay

Nobody here is proplay and nobody cares about that shit.

Kazekiba1 votes

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Nobody here is proplay and nobody cares about that shit.

Ah yes, nobody cares about the literal only thing that Riot looks to for balance changes unless it involves a champion no one is picking in high Elo like Master Yi and Amumu. Pro play has been the dominate force in making money from this game for the last like 2 years or so but it totally doesn't matter.

floo2 votes

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Ah yes, nobody cares about the literal only thing that Riot looks to for balance changes unless it involves a champion no one is picking in high Elo like Master Yi and Amumu. Pro play has been the dominate force in making money from this game for the last like 2 years or so but it totally doesn't matter.

You named the problem yourself. They are changing most champions for the sake of 0.01% or even less of the entire playerbase. Of course RIOT cares about their primary income of money. But over here nobody cares what they change for their sake. It ruins the champions for everyone else who plays the game. They cater more to the people watching than the people playing, except for a small margin. (Which is 90% fat skins and prestiges). Again, nobody wants them to overbuff champs to be viable in pro or nerf them to 40% winrates so they aren't pick ban there.

tempname12321344 votes

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This shit could’ve belonged on someone like trundle but nope more Renekton worship

he hasn't been in the patch notes in nearly 5 months 9.6????

RainbowIcee4 votes

I feel an active item would be better for it no? preferably an AP item since almost no mage has constant dmg like Cassiopeia and Azir so shields really nullify them.

ˉŁ9ˉ4 votes

Mage items are already broken/too cheap, giving them another item to counter AD champions would be the last day you see me

Fëalnort3 votes

True, not an AP item.

Or at least one not strong enought to get taken by AP mid. (like, not 80/90 AP ).

But i really like the idea of an item instead of a rene buff XD

AMADEUSdotEXE6 votes

Coming from someone that plays almost exclusively AP champions, Mages do not need any more items that good. I don't think that should be an item to begin with except for maybe a support item with stats so shitty you basically buy it for the active.

BLIGHTBRINGER2 votes

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This shit could’ve belonged on someone like trundle but nope more Renekton worship

It would actually sort of work considering he has this anti-tank/anti-defense thing going out for him.

But even then I don't think this mechanic is healthy for the game.

For example something like this would be much healthier (just an example not a suggestion)...

  • Enemies who are shielded and are standing in Varus' E zone causes Varus basic attacks and abilities to bypass the shield.

So essentially not removing it, not dealing bonus damage to it but just bypassing it, and something like this would be much healthier.

Katlyann39 votes

Stop buffing this r%%%%% champ pls.

This guy already cancer to play against.

Dope Solo22 votes

Why are buffing already strong champs in teh first place? Ahri Does not need another fuckign charm buff.

In Borke Veritas15 votes

My guess is Renekton is getting a new skin soon

FSRER13 votes

Renekton was a lane bully who had the ability to win duelists but lose to juggernauts/tanks. Now, they let him win duelists and every tank with a shield making matchups like Sion and Malphite, to be good matchups for renekton instead of bad like they were. Bullcrap buff and unecessary. A change for the sake of change not for the sake of balancing.

Off Meta Evan2 votes

renekton is a champion rn that you would only ever really play because you're good at him. If i want a spear abuser Jax is objectively better at abusing it. If i want a lane bully Darius Aatrox do renekton's job but better, the only thing i think renekton has on those two is i think he's better in like 1 or 2 match ups. If multiple champions do your job but just better tho, your champion is weak. according to champion.GG he has a 47% wr and a 3.7% play rate... those are not strong numbers. https://champion.gg/champion/Renekton/Top?

yay nibbers4 votes

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A change for the sake of change not for the sake of balancing.

So business as usual for Riot then?

Luigi Tortellini10 votes

Why would you expect Riot to do literally anything but the worst possible balance changes for Top or Jungle? That's like expecting a dog to guard your steak.

Greenlightx10 votes

A shield is extra health, giving a skill the ability to remove a shield means you are increasing the Champions damage and Renekton doesn't need that.

The Trent8 votes

I think riot should've just made it go through shields.... the fact that this is just another god damn bs mechanic supports have to deal with because of stupid carries (Tahm/Sylas) that are overtuned is so dumb. Stop giving supports the short of the stick all the time like wtfff

Raiyza6 votes

Is anyone really surprised? Like, seriously? League is, and will remain, unbalanced because of crap like this.

ContDeCaterinca16 votes

Can't we just add a freckin cap to the shield value he can break, scaling with ranks and AD?

Breaking a full shield of any value it's pretty busted, it removes a lot of counterplay to Renekton as a burst-combo champion.

Jennifer4206 votes

"everyone complains about riven and tahm being free wins... so... how about we give the former strongest toplaner the ability to break their shield. HA BALANCED!"

rito in a nutshell: why nerf stuff when you can overbuff other stuff.

253IQ2 votes

Instead of nerfing them they made something more op to everything just to counter them

253IQ2 votes

such a shity company

Janakin5 votes

This is the biggest joke and mistake riot have ever made.

This renekton shit is a huge fuck up, but sadly, not even close to their biggest mistakes...

Jenivie4 votes

lol excuse me what is THAT, are they really going to let that into the game

Illabethe1 votes

They're also putting in a 1350 HP threshold Pyke that gains double the gold on execute......

Jenivie1 votes

I think the ONLY way to have a balanced shield break mechanic is to make it how irelias used to work, deal bonus damage to shields not just completely fucking ignore them wtf

ÈvilMorty3 votes

Still waiting for immobile champ changes where playing them doesnt feel like a handicap

SirPurrr2 votes

I think it's a terrible idea too. You need to be able to rely on shields and otherwise, it's very misleading. At least with grievous you can see your HP getting a lot lower than you'd expect. This just defies expectations and feels really bad. It makes shields completely useless. I could maybe see this as OK if the mechanic took 3 autos to break the shield or something to that effect.

preternatural2 votes

if this shit goes live and irelia does not get her shield break back lololololol

l love Ahri2 votes

This looks like something that should've belonged to an assassin like Talon or Zed but whatever the croc gets it

JOOTAROOO2 votes

The cure to cancer... MORE CANCER!!!! MAXIMUMU NO OBADURAIBU CANSAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Flashes2 votes

I like how Renekton is top tier right now but is still being buffed

ChaosReyn1 votes

Tbh, they need to remove that from Renekton, and consider making it into an item. Like, there's very rarely any time that shield breaker is going to be relevant, except into very specific matchups. As in, Kench, Janna, Sion or Kled. Sometimes Kai'Sa. And into those very specific matchups, there should be a very specific way to go about it.

In TFT, Sword Breaker builds out of two defensive items...so it's an item that if they were to put into actual LoL, would probably give average or mediocre Armor/MR, and a passive to allow you to disarm. Since Disarm is honestly a horribly unfun mechanic on the rift, Why not make a Shield Breaker item with an active that allows your basic attacks to break shields for 5s on use, and lets say a 75s cooldown on end of effect? People complain that tanky champions do too much damage anyway...why not make a defensive item that gives them a short burst of shield-smashing power, in exchange for picking up an item with mediocre defensive stats and no actual damage increases? inb4 "lel assassins", I doubt ADCs/Assassins would want to pick up a tank/bruiser item with bad defensive stats and no AD, even if the active lets them ignore some defense, and since it's a niche item, it's something that'd only really see play in those very shield heavy matchups.

Gentleman Gems3 votes

Wait, is Skaarl considered a shield, and does that mean Renekton can one shot Skaarl?

ChaosReyn1 votes

Skarrl, no. Kled's ult gives him a shield based on how far he travels, so it can potentially get pretty sizable.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Putting it on an item would be a bad idea, it would just become a tax to defeating certain champions. If shields are so powerful that we need to BREAK them instantly, then an item isn't the way to do it, we need champs who are guaranteed to do it, and more than just 2 or 3.

I would love seeing this on Rek'sai, to give her some reason to be picked in norms. Maybe Veigar's ultimate could destroy shields before it does damage? Lower Kog'maw's % health per second and give him bonus damage to shields on his W?

Wild Geese1 votes

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Putting it on an item would be a bad idea, it would just become a tax to defeating certain champions. If shields are so powerful that we need to BREAK them instantly, then an item isn't the way to do it, we need champs who are guaranteed to do it, and more than just 2 or 3.

I would love seeing this on Rek'sai, to give her some reason to be picked in norms. Maybe Veigar's ultimate could destroy shields before it does damage? Lower Kog'maw's % health per second and give him bonus damage to shields on his W?

I like say, putting on Rek'Sai's ultimate? That ult aside when they made it totally broken is just "dash and do damage", adding something to it wouldn't hurt.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

I don't think so, that is a lot of commitment just to break a shield. I like it better on burrowed Q, gives you more of a reason to shoot it. Now you can pop shields and then use the damage you dealt to go face with R after.

Xela Syab1 votes

I do like the idea, but it's on the wrong champion. Singed would probably be balanced on his w since he can't really duel or burst and he's a low mechanic champion.

it be lìke that1 votes

singed deserves to be disabled until reworked.

Saakaa1 votes

Barierr will be nothing if someone will play vs renekton...

i4got2pull0ut1 votes

ok but can we talk about the pyke buff and the fact that they just nerfed solo pyke and now they are giving a big buff to solo pyke

The Spicy Crit1 votes

They buffed already broken champion? Wow, that's too much, even for Riot

VageneAndBøbs1 votes

I like the idea of a shield break on a champ to counter Tahm, but maybe not Renekton..

Kurjao1 votes

Was expecting it to be on some one like Kled with the pull part of his Q or hitting a marked target from skarners E. Wasn't expecting Renekton though

sho ayane1 votes

poppy used to counter renekton, makes me sad i might not be able to beat him anymore if he has this and ignite :(

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