Just so we are clear, Rek'Sai is going to get GUTTED HARD,right?

Rikari·Jan 8, 2015·1 votes·1,056 views

It's not from earth to animal rights don't apply to that shit. Kass got nerfed due to his engage and escape potential. Irelia got nerfed due to her sustain. Lucian got nerfed due to his insane damage output. Zed/Fizz are toxic due to their potential to dive with no drawbacks. Yet Rek'sai has all this and more. The ability to see stealthed champions,limitless true damage,and basically a global teleport. I thought Kalista would be a nightmare to the top lane,but this thing is insane. She's like a tanky assassin,or better yet,a female void version of . If im wrong,her win and ban rates should speak for themselves.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/reksai&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=challenger#statistics

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=bans&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=ranked

At least Azir takes time to set up.

17 Comments

redniwediSJan 8, 20155 votes

No champion should ever be gutted, no matter how badly you hate them. This is a balance matter, and since it's a balance matter you should be asking for whatever champion is in question to be balanced, not made useless.

Long Dong WukongJan 8, 20151 votes

No champion should ever be gutted

Lee Sin, LeBlanc, Zed

There are champions that should be gutted to never-played status. Case closed.

redniwediSJan 8, 20151 votes

Read and try to understand the rest of my post, not just that tiny quote. They should be balanced, not made useless like any child who had a hard time against them would say.

Long Dong WukongJan 8, 20151 votes

You can't balance hyper mobility.

Either they're overbearing and ridiculous, like those champions, or they actually pay for hyper mobility and outplay potential by being weak, which those champions do not.

Gut pls & thx

redniwediSJan 8, 20151 votes

Well I'll be. You certainly changed my mind with your new and well written response. It's impressive that you came up with an idea that no one else in the history of the internet has thought of. You should consider applying to Riot's balance team, you will do wonders for them.

Also if you're just going to repeat the same broken record of an argument that everyone uses why even bother posting at all?

Long Dong WukongJan 8, 20151 votes

Didn't read. Regardless, you have a nice day.

insaiyanbaccaJan 8, 20152 votes

i thought a "diamond" wouldnt complain about these champs im "only silver" and i know they aren't that hard to deal with, just counterpick

Long Dong WukongJan 8, 20151 votes

I'm sure they aren't hard to deal with when the people you're playing against can't actually play the game correctly or use the characters correctly, lol.

High mobility mid assassins are for all intents and purposes immune to counterpicking, by the way. This is why pro mids are basically judged on how well they can play Zed.

Zed, Fizz, and LeBlanc are the only Assassins that do their job at essentially zero danger to themselves if played correctly, and this shows in their ban rates. They're annoying to play against because they're almost impossible to kill and they snowball hard on top of it all, and people don't even want to deal with it.

Heh. Doesn't matter though, because this topic's about their newest buttfuckery of a champion that was designed specifically for their new shitty jungle, which requires absolutely free sustain and AoE damage, which funnily enough made "her" ridiculous top because of the instant waveclear and mapwide mobility. She gets to get to a fight without using teleport too, shit's funny.

asktiksJan 8, 20152 votes

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I'm sure they aren't hard to deal with when the people you're playing against can't actually play the game correctly or use the characters correctly, lol.

High mobility mid assassins are for all intents and purposes immune to counterpicking, by the way. This is why pro mids are basically judged on how well they can play Zed.

Zed, Fizz, and LeBlanc are the only Assassins that do their job at essentially zero danger to themselves if played correctly, and this shows in their ban rates. They're annoying to play against because they're almost impossible to kill and they snowball hard on top of it all.

Heh. Doesn't matter though, because this topic's about their newest buttfuckery of a champion that was designed specifically for their new shitty jungle, which requires absolutely free sustain and AoE damage, which funnily enough made "her" ridiculous top because of the instant waveclear and mapwide mobility. She gets to get to a fight without using teleport, shit's funny.

ahem...again...TF

also , go check TFs pick rates and wins...pretty sure hes got more than rek

insaiyanbaccaJan 8, 20151 votes

i do admit rek does need a nerf i agree fully on that, but with assassins just learn morde, malz or anivia they all make assassin's life suck

Cenobite AzazielJan 8, 20151 votes

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No champion should ever be gutted, no matter how badly you hate them. This is a balance matter, and since it's a balance matter you should be asking for whatever champion is in question to be balanced, not made useless.

Lee sin. It would be a glorious day. 2~~3 yeas as top jungler. MEanwhile, Olaf played what? 2~~3 games and got gutted?

Demonsolder21Jan 8, 20152 votes

Thank you for saying this no champion deserves to get gutted period.

asktiksJan 8, 20152 votes

so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin...

reksai doesn't have INSANE DMG OUTPUT , he only has ONE COMBO and then its AA or run away , wich usually you cant since you will get focused or whatever

global teleport? TF would like a word with ya...I have to have tunnels set up so I can port to them as you say, and most of the time , players make it a point to stand on my tunnels, hey its free gold why wouldn't they? ...wait....there goes my "gloabal teleport

limitless true dmg? LOL irelia says hello....reksai only does true dmg with his E and only if he has full ragebar, at most you get two of those before dying, also btw....you cannot burrow , engage with a full fury bar seeing as the second you burrow all your fury gets consumed....comprende?

reksai wrecking top lane? as a top laner or a jungler?

because if hes being top lane, all you have to do is get a ranged or cassi and lol at his horrible laning phase while you kill/poke him for the rest of the game...

seems l2p is in order...

that said however, you can keep your panties on, they ARE nerfing his AD ratios on pretty much all three of his spells, they are NOT however changing his kit, so again, l2p

Hilltop SunsetJan 8, 20151 votes

Yeah, basically this. Learn to play against the new champs instead of resorting to complaining about them a month after release. xD Accommodation, people!

Done25Jan 8, 20151 votes

Don't worry, she's getting spanked and her Q is now weaker.

A0 SHINJan 8, 20151 votes

Right now they've reduced her Q ratio by 60% and her W by 10%

Hilltop SunsetJan 8, 20151 votes

Limitless true damage? First of all, you have to build the fury. Second of all, that shit's on like at least a 12 second cooldown at early levels. Third of all, you NEED to build AD for this to provide any significant damage, which means you either go assassin with a really strong bite, or you go tanky with a really weak one, both of which have pros and cons. You have a very curious interpretation of the word "limitless." Also, her gap-closer is unreliable because it goes a set distance, unlike Vi who stops once she hits her target or Tryndamere who can change how far he goes manually, or Lee who always dashes to the targets he clicks--it's a very exploitable weakness. Her ability to go in AND get back out is dependent on whether she has multiple tunnels set up, and it's not very difficult to destroy one and prevent her from jumping in and ducking out. Yes you can see invisible champs, but at the cost of not attacking, and even if you can see them you can't always do anything about it. I think it's a unique, fun, and useful mechanic, but is incredibly difficult to utilize to its full potential.

Her biggest lane strength is her sustain. My suggestion is to reduce her fury gain; this makes it harder to obtain the true damage spike, plus reduces her HP regen sustain.