The problem isn't assassin's. It's itemization

Jefftiffy··1 votes·392 views

All I hear lately is "Counterplay blah blah blah." "X assassin is OP". "X is too strong".

But when I look at the items and the assassin weakness, there is nothing to deal with it. Mana regen is horrible right now, only people with mana are those building base mana in their build or have innate mana sustain. On top of this armor pen still trumps armor and stacks (IDK why you can build something more gold efficient than 2 items and stack it). Plus, the items that are meant to counter assassin's don't work.

item 3026 - I'm going to respawn and die instantly to them and it doesn't even reduce damage because they have armor pen/magic pen that is way more gold efficient than this.

item 3157 - only works on highly projected champs where you can react. If its too fast you are dead or going into Zhonya's to stall your death.

item 3140 item 3139 - even more situational than Zhonya's and GA. Rarely ever actually does anything against the current meta (does nothing to knock ups and doesn't even provide 100% tenacity for a bit after it).

Honestly how do you fight Assassins when their weakness is sustain but there is nothing to outsustain them. GA is an anti single burst item that doesn't resurect you with enough hp to live after you revive. Zhonya's is only good in certain scenarios if you see them coming and can react. Merc scimitar is to drop CC which is kind of a general use. The Athene's grail is still worse than a morello for sustain (for the love of god up the mana regen to 100%). Hell or give it an active that restores mana. SOMETHING.

I really can't say anything about the balance of this game right now as long as itemization is still terrible. We have no selection or the selection we have is so bad its laughable but you have to build it anyways.

How to fix item 3026 : Basically it acts like Tryndamere's ult on a lower time span and automatic. At the end of the current proc time (4s) you receive 35% your hp back (not effected by grievous) and 50% of your mana but you are not allowed to attack or cast and and have 100% tenacity for the duration of the proc.

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Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

GA negates kill / assist resets. Tanks with cc, positioning, and wards stop assassins.

tkmteam51581 votes

You are correct my dear commenter. You can't get killed by that mid laner if you see them before they leave walk across the map. item 3340 OP

Jefftiffy1 votes

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You are correct my dear commenter. You can't get killed by that mid laner if you see them before they leave walk across the map. item 3340 OP

The point is there is nothing to prevent them from killing you after it gets proc'd. You will die because in that 4s the assassin will have a spell up to pop your hp the second you get up. And the point is you shouldn't have to wait on your opponent to make mistakes. You have to be able to force them to (not all the time), and if you can't its unhealthy for the game. I rarely ever see GA make a difference. They die, sit there for 4s while their team dies and pop up and die again.

And if your damage is down what do you have to kill the assassin. Talon can run away or cloak knowing he got your GA and did a bunch of damage to your team faster than they could react. The new GA would do much better than the current one. The current one doesn't stop resets, it delays them. I mean Kata alone has W up every 3s and starts combos with Q. It's not hard to kill someone popping up from a GA before they have a chance to react. Zed can just Q you or AA you once you get up because his passive will be up again. Akali is about the only reset based assassin that it stops, because her damage requires her to use at least 2 charges to stick to you and only gain 1. Stopping resets only works if its on a charge based system.

To give you a hint of how bad this game is at balance. There are exactly 4-5 actives that are actually reactionary. While every other one is spam off.

And the majority of items are stat sticks. Meaning no matter what stat stick>active even though the active is reactionary and actually takes some kind of skill to be used, and got reduced power due to this active.

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