Now that Kennen is in the dumpster with pre-season changes, can he finally get the rework he needs?

Yenn··6 votes·2,401 views

tl;dr this champion was designed for League in 2010 and hasn't kept up with mobility creep or the high damage meta. His win rate in NA is currently 45%.

His kit doesn't synergize well and doesn't allow him to do his job as a team fighting champion. His mobility is too weak and doesn't allow him to get on top of high priority targets and he doesn't have the survivability necessary for staying in range of high priority targets if he does manage to get in. He's forced to build two items to cover these two weaknesses, but as a result, he does no damage. This means he needs to reach 3 items to actually be effective.

Klepto covered this weakness to some degree by expediting these items. Without Klepto, it takes him too long to obtain the items that he needs just to barely function. The old Nimbus Cloak also helped to cover his mobility issues, by allowing him to get on top of his target faster when he ults, but now that's gone.

Scaling champions needing items to be strong is one thing, but a champion should not need 3 items just to perform their basic role.

Update his kit to something that works in 2020. If nothing else, increase the cooldown on his E and give it something like a mini-flash (i.e. Pikachu Up+B in Smash).

27 Comments

5050BS6 votes

Ya he needs a full rework

Ahri Baka5 votes

Weird this isn't downvoted yet , idk much about Kennen but from what I know he is one of the most despised top laners

Z3SIeeper3 votes

We want him reworked because we despise him. We want a Kennen that isn't this Kennen.

Ahri Baka1 votes

But .. we both know that he will be broken and even more despised when he gets reworked

Daddy Ants4 votes

Kennen's in the dumpster because the abusers I mean mains actually have to play the game and learn basic mechanics like farming if they want gold.

Z3SIeeper3 votes

Kennen has no mains. He only has people who picked him cuz he was a safe and free lane win.

Imagine maining this boring ass champion.

Daddy Ants2 votes

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Kennen has no mains. He only has people who picked him cuz he was a safe and free lane win.

Imagine maining this boring ass champion.

Poor Kennen players actually have to play League of Legends now.

XD

Daddy Ants2 votes

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Kennen has no mains. He only has people who picked him cuz he was a safe and free lane win.

Imagine maining this boring ass champion.

I saw this post of a Kennen player a while back saying kleptomancy should come back.

He had a negative win rate over 300+ games with Kennen and was averaging 5 cs per min.

Z3SIeeper2 votes

Hahaha. You have to CS on Kennen to get gold now? Unplayable.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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Hahaha. You have to CS on Kennen to get gold now? Unplayable.

TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE CHAMPION! OMG RIOT

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Z3SIeeper4 votes

I'm totally fine with letting him sit in the gutter for a year before a rework as compensation for the hell he gave us the past year.

50CaliberHecate3 votes

I'd personally like to see him get a kit rework and a visual upgrade... his skins are so bad with the exception of Blood Moon. I think for being a "ninja", he is extremely lacking this identity. Damage in this meta simply does not allow a champ to just walk into the middle of an enemy group with dashes or leaps without having to be disguised or invisible. (Kai'sa E becomes invisible. Vayne's tumble becomes invisible. Neeko's passive is disguising her or she can W to go invisible into the enemies.) Now be it, Kai'sa and Vayne aren't gonna do a whole lot to hurt a whole group of enemies unless super fed, but Neeko... she essentially does Kennen's job. The 3 auto dmg... the root... the easy wave clear in her q... the AOE CC ult... and the quick mobility. Honestly, if they are gonna fix him, he's gonna have to take on a new identity or Kennen and Neeko will be extremely similar.

5050BS1 votes

Yep he has no stealth and weak wave clear. His "Poke" is weak now with all the sustain.

His Ult is usless without item 3157

Just really bad in the current champ design system

50CaliberHecate1 votes

Now what I'd like to know is how can Neeko be doing his job 10x better yet she goes mid and Kennen goes top?? Why was he a top laner to begin with when most every champ top lane is a tank or build massive health regen?

Sinister Anubis2 votes

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Now what I'd like to know is how can Neeko be doing his job 10x better yet she goes mid and Kennen goes top?? Why was he a top laner to begin with when most every champ top lane is a tank or build massive health regen?

Kennen went top to mostly abuse klepto and be a safe pick with his e and ulti. He can be pushed up to enemy tower and not fear ganks much. He also is great to gank for in such a long lane. The issue tho is he was meant to be a team fighter but was much better top with his pressure and it allowed his team to do other things without him dying a lot to ganks.

Garson2113 votes

Nothing change to kennen hes still phase rush and is super save and " good pick" top (jzs cancer is good pick).he needs rework coz hes abused top and autowin lane not because hes bad. Ppls who abuse klepto losing more games than phase rush players so w/e

Warmas3 votes

Ha was abusing klepto that's why it got removed, now he has to farm for his items like everybody else. If the fact that his mobility doesn't allow him to get on high priority targets then you got it wrong. The E is both for engage and disengage and it's pretty toxic to play against it on top taken how MUCH mobility it provides. He doesn't need to reach 3 items to be relevant at all, he has a huge aoe stun that can win teamfights alone. He is a lanebully and a teamfight decider he got enough in his kit.

NaughtyWord2 votes

Kennen has one of the highest if not the highest base attack speed and a decent range at 550, I feel like something could be done with that.

KFCeytron2 votes

Are you sure you want a Kennen rework? From what I recall, you enjoy that champion. If he gets a rework, he won't play the same way anymore, and might even end up completely different like Aatrox did.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

The problem with kennen is his passive and lack of damage also not to mention his reliance on flash ulti with his e to work properly. He really needs some better numbers less clunky animations and more reliability. A visual upgrade is much needed as well.

Z3SIeeper5 votes

No. Full rework. Kit is cancer when good, dogshit when bad. That's an indication of a design flaw, not a numbers issue.

Abibyama II1 votes

The good old Aatrox treatment because his abusers mains deserves it

HideSide1 votes

How can you do in word "DELETE" 5 mistakes?

FSRER1 votes

So you are suggesting to rework him in order to be a ap assassin (blink you mentioned) but who also keeps his ultimate (to keep his identity)? Boy, you are ready to go and work in Riot's champion design team, up there with CertainlyT

LegendWizard081 votes

Btw old Kennen didnt usually used nimbus cloak with klepto he used domination secondary and also there are lot of late game champs who needs more items to be relevant and kennen has a lot of strenghts has range great escape from ganks he is lane dominant if played good

Caretaker Jack1 votes

Im sorry, but Kennen's gotta burn until his VGU.. #fuckthepolice

Sukishoo1 votes

According to a post a remember somewhere he has held up decently and they consider him an Ezreal tier candidate, so he'd see very small change in a VGU.

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