replace 
with 
the armor values and the price on the components are the same.
it even fits, since glories active has a speed up effect towards enemy turrets. we could even keep the cdr on the completed item. its just to get the mana out of the recipe and completed item and replace it with raptor cloaks health regen instead.
= 
+ for 2650 gold
400 health 30 armor 200% base health regen 10% cooldown reduction
Häxel4 votes first and having a bigger manapool solves some of their early manaproblems in lane? 
and 
for exampel like to go this Item and they get normaly no other Manaitems atm. 
is a realy situational item and 
never worked good for Singes playpattern. Now with the reduced aura range and being center to center even on cho it is now awfull. Having no mana would likly force cho'gath to buy frozen heart. ? Dives under towers happen not so often, only a proxy singed walks lanes up and down.
, 
or 
less attractive cause the passive is a named unique effect. If you want pointrunner, you can go one of these items. And Banner of Command for example got with the Baron changes recently an attractive choice (even after banners nerf 1 patch later).I would say that Point 1 is the main argument and point 2 to some degree too. 3 is just a bonus.
Also: Just removing the mana but keeping the cdr (while not having a cdr item in the path but thats not so important) and adding pointrunner and 100% Healthregen for the same price is definetly not fair and far to strong. Either higher Gold cost, lower healthred and/or cdr removal. Bu the point is: why should it be changed. many champions like to have some Mana but the other 
or items aswell as doesn't suit everyone. Easily seen then the popularity of Righous Glory increased hard by just exchanging the 
for the Glacial Augment
Bonipherus1 votesI'm okay with it. I personally hate the rg > zz'rot singed play style. you have no damage and you basically become flip bot with some annoying lane voidlings. It works for Lehends because he is an ex support main and korean challengers can snowball off just a few small mistakes. Tank Singed has to win quick or else he just becomes a worse volibear. I also personally don't like zz'rot on singed since he can't really defend it well at all since he doesn't have ways to threaten others in front of him without his team nearby. Singed should be building more ap anyway and a lot of us don't even bother with righteous glory and instead rely entirely on ult, flash/ghost, and passive to get us in and out of the fights. I'm not saying singed should never build zz'rot or righterous glory but they should ideally be more situational purchases rather than core items on him.
Also I think rg got more popular because it gave armor, health, mana, and cdr after the rework instead of just health, mana, and health regen
Critmaster Garen1 votes
- But do not certain champions like to go
- For what do you even need
- Than this item would alos make the purchase of
I would say that Point 1 is the main argument and point 2 to some degree too. 3 is just a bonus.
Also: Just removing the mana but keeping the cdr (while not having a cdr item in the path but thats not so important) and adding pointrunner and 100% Healthregen for the same price is definetly not fair and far to strong. Either higher Gold cost, lower healthred and/or cdr removal. Bu the point is: why should it be changed. many champions like to have some Mana but the other
the regeneration just carries over from raptor cloak. its 175% from both component items up by 25% on the finished item, instead of 300 mana on the current version. so its pretty fair imo. youre getting the same value out of the upgrade in raw stats.
the champions you mentioned have other mana options. a lot of their items already provide mana.
for tank items in general, you have 
for ap items, there is 
and all the 
items
is a great item for both, singed and cho. the passive gets them additional mana for damage theyre taking. imo the 300 mana on glory isnt a big deal for them.
however combinbed with freezeray is currently one of 
best builds, and the only real way for him to get a single keystone that really synergizes with his playstile, or to get some sort of team utility going.
it would be nice if the item was a bit more consolidated for him and didnt have the mana, because it really sucks that its there.
i initially didnt like the righteous glory build, but the effectiveness in teamfights just as a follow up to your own teams initiation is pretty good.
Häxel1 votesThats what i'm talkin about. The aura changes made it for big tanks or tanskw tih high range abilitys awful. If the aura would at elast get changed again not beeing cetner to center but edge to edge or edge to center it would be ebtter but now it just raw sucks for cho and is more of an amumu item who is realy small.
rush suscks too. This is an item you not go most times first and also is an anti ad item. What do you do vs magic damage like Rumble, Vlad, Swain, Ap Teemo etc? Like i said, the Abyssal Changes made it worse for a few champions.
Ap Items don't interest any tank or Bruiser. An Olaf who wants to eb tanky but also to throw some qs for exampel. Trinity Force could be an Option but Black Cleaver is just more appealing and again: Fh early sucks and only is good vs heavy autoattack focused enemies on lane. It isn't even much appealing in the jungle.
Now i didn't even realy notice your name but now with your Garen argument? Is this realy your only reason? Cause haha, there are A LOT of items that have stast that not everyone likes but is still bought. 
Mana is the best exampel with similar situation. Yes it got its ap and crit removed to be more appealing (same as glory got catalyst removed), but it alss gives Mana and still Champions like 
like or liked int he past to go that item. Still you not change an item just for 1 or a few chapions if the high audience is better with that. 
is another item: Its hybrid and many champions would be better without the ap they get from it like 
. But without Ap it would loose its special tradeoff and 
would also loose another item.
Again you have not mentioned why most champions would rather like instead of ? Glacial gives Cdr with building it and Mana. Tanks beeing long in fight run maybe at some point out of Mana, even with other items like . More Mana is most times never bad. Also you can stay on Glacial and finish some other item(s) first while having mana and cdr now. Why would Champions like Point Runner? Most part of the Game is not diving under Tower but on the Lane or near Dragon or Baron.
Garen alone should not be the decision to remove mana and cdr (from the itempath) for a lot of champions.
Critmaster Garen1 votesAgain you have not mentioned why most champions would rather like
most of them dont. most of them also wouldnt care. health regen is as good as a stat on the item for them as mana. because righteous glory is rarely a priority item for anyone. most tanks and bruisers who build it would build some other mana items first anyway.
but replacing with on the item would make it more stat efficient for fighters like 
who probably would like to build it as soon as possible, and just dont need mana.
i dont know if youve played garen recently, but the only way to make him work in most games is by rushing the glory/freezeray combo, and try to play as a weird sort of secondary initiator and support.
every other keystone available to him comes with some sort of shitty string attached. bruiser garen doesnt really work anymore, because he gets kited by every ranged champion out there, and outtraded by every fighter or skirmisher. so for most games, this is currently the only option to make yourself viable.
Furious Delisha1 votesWas going to say Riot does it specifically to keep Garen away from it, but then I saw your name.
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Was going to say Riot does it specifically to keep Garen away from it, but then I saw your name.
why should he be excluded specifically, when other fighters arent? i dont think that was their motivation.
Snowman Arc1 votesAlso, you lose the MS passive the way you mention the item.
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Also, you lose the MS passive the way you mention the item.
it transfers into the active. right now glories active gives movement speed towards enemy champions and turrets.
but if you insist, it would just be possible to replace the cdr on glory with point runner. though i dont really see much of an issue with just saying that raptor cloaks passive became part of righteous glories active. thematically theyre still similar.