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The Veigar changes have been set

Jefftiffy··4 votes·471 views

So apparently Veigar's E is going to remain the near unbearable state. This means that he is more than likely going to be weak on rework.

Why?

His Q is becoming a skill shot with no speed increase and is basically made to force him to push lane (the chances of you poking with it or getting double farm is low). His ult is losing 20% of its scaling.

He needs something in his kit to compensate for losing a huge amount of utility in an instant stun and making it projected and have almost a 1s delay. I typically never built DFG so DFG removal did no effect me. But he is barely viable as it is until he gets to 6 with some mana regen where he can actually menace the enemy laner.

Either speed up his W to land in 1s or make his E have another source of utility.

Things I have thought about for this: A) a suction to the middle for people stuck inside of it (seems like too much utility in it) B) a slow inside of it and while it is forming C) making the wall shrink inwards slightly as well as expand outwards slightly after it forms

Also his Q should have never changed from point and click. I don't care about the double AP farm, I want to safely farm under tower when idiots shove lane against someone they want to kill.

4 Comments

Solidair32 votes

If he comes out a little weak, Riot can put some power into him when he's not performing well.

Now that his E has a delay they have levers in place to buff/nerf him where he needs it. And if the cage delay thing doesn't work, they'll probably rework the cage all together, and that would be fine too.

Let's stop freaking out and just play for a few days, and if it's REALLY unbearble, THEN we can complain to riot.

Raxicor1 votes

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Longshotz882 votes

Like all the levers they use to balance the jungle? No thank you, you can keep your levers. I thought this was supposed to be a compensation buff not a compensation nerf.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

It honestly seems like when Riot reworks champions they intentionally leave them weaker so they can buff them if necessary, but then it takes them forever. Remember the Olaf rework and how it took them 12 patches to even look at him again? Or how about Sion's rework? Yes, Sion's new kit is fantastic but they completely gutted his base health just in case his new W farm would be overpowered, resulting in a champion who used to be a total juggernaut now as more of just a tanky bruiser.

Here with Veigar it honestly doesn't seem like much of a buff. Riot has claimed in internal testing that the double Q farm (and increased range, which does seem like a pretty substantial buff against Zed) results in a huge ramp up of bonus AP in the mid game, but with one of his spells just being basically unhittable and the other taking a 20% AP nerf it seems like it doesn't really matter all that much...

Personally, I'd like it if Riot just made Event Horizon work like Cataclysm with a stun on it. An actual, impassable wall so that we could see him combined with J4 and Gnar in the LC$.

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