What Kind of None ADC Composition Do You Guys Want?

Meep Man·Jan 20, 2018·4 votes·610 views

I personally wish we get two additional Carry playstyles, where one is the brute force, melee character carry style and the other is siege and poke APC carry style. I think the perfect examples of what I mean are:

Brute Strength: Siege and Poke:

Now, I'm not saying make changes to champions to force them into Bottom Lane like they did with Mordekaiser, but introduce an item that has an effect similar to Morde's W passive that would allow them to be able to duo lane. Not necessarily just getting bonus experience, but something that would allow them to do such. I really look forward to seeing Riot push compositions that aren't forced into having a Marksman.

13 Comments

vgamedudeJan 20, 20181 votes

Hardcore melee bruiser engage

Camille Leona bot Sej jungle Azir mid Jarvan top

Spice and garbage

greekvandaLJan 20, 20181 votes

AziR/Nunu ( new nunu ) Bot. GG

ArnoterJan 20, 20181 votes

Yasuo and Lulu bot is actually pretty OP

Baron BarianJan 20, 20181 votes

Maybe Nasus bot will be a thing.

AhristocatsJan 20, 20181 votes

skirmisher: Camille (is a diver but feels like a skirmisher to me) Tryndamere Yasuo juggernauts: Darius Olaf mages: Mordekaiser Vladimir Azir Veigar

selection will be such a clown fiesta

just like in dota 2

and i love it

ŚhunpoJan 21, 20181 votes

I want to see bruisers and possibly assassins transition to the bot lane. That would actually make the lane intense and interesting.

haaaaaaalpJan 21, 20181 votes

I don't really want the metagame to be narrow enough that we can easily classify it in a few words. Should be a large mix of every champion doing well in every role.

The Minion huntJan 21, 20181 votes

ok for a none adc meta to work they have to be able to safely farm bot lane against range opponents. They also have to scale very well, if a bot lane can farm and out scale you at high lvl they will just do that.

Earthlord JazzJan 21, 20181 votes

I'v been going Swain bot for about 6 months now as I am horrible at the adc position. He excels in fights with multiple opponents and thrives when opponents 4 man dive him (post 6 with item 2420 ). His poor wave management early levels is solved having a support to help control the wave and his ranged nature allows him to avoid poke. Itemization is easy after your first back, either opting for item 3191 or item 3010 .

SwiftKitten88Jan 21, 20181 votes

..winning without and adc is next to impossible.. it can be done if thier adc is bad enough and if every lane wins and they dont ever get fed...

but thats a rarity..

LitoJJan 21, 20181 votes

DoT like Rumble Cassiopeia Taliyah I feel it could work but with the shorter range compared to Marksmen and their power gated by their resource meters and cooldowns(especially early game), it's difficult to make them as viable botlane carry champions when compared to the kits/range Marksmen have as well as how strong Marksmen items are atm with their cheapness.

I wish for this to be an equally viable method one day so the day of always 100% needing an "ADC" is over. I really mean it too. Not to say this game should no longer need Marksmen(that in itself is pretty extreme) but I just don't think they should nearly be a requirement at ALL times.

ValyrianBladeJan 21, 20181 votes

There's nothing wrong with a composition requiring a marksman.

The problem league has is that there are only ~19 marksmen in the game.

Every other role is limited to a group of champions. While you can argue that Top lane consists of bruisers and tanks and some ranged champions, or mid lane consists of DPS mages and assassins and burst mages, etc... each role is still confined to a particular set of champions that operate in that role.

However we have 50+ champions that can be played top, and only 19 marksmen that get played bot.

The problem is with lack of variety in bot laners. If we had even 30 unique marksmen champions (some of which may not necessarily need to use auto attacks for their damage, but the general idea of these champions would be sustained damage from range and able to take towers and objectives efficiently from range) I'd guess that 90% of complaints regarding "there's always a marksman" would be gone.

Ranged DPS against objectives is necessary in a game where the only thing that really counts is objectives.