Syndra has the game's 4th worst winrate right now

Abyssphere··4 votes·882 views

Can we please at least get some discussion on why she's being left in this state? She's been bad for months and she just keeps slipping further and further down the rankings. How bad does she need to get before she gets some help?

You don't even need to give her flat buffs. Just do something about the extraordinary amount of longstanding bugs she has.

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Kotex4 votes

I do miss the time when Syndra was in the meta.

Vistha Kai2 votes

I miss the time when I could hit somebody with QE and they would get stunned.

Nope, better nerf Q damage, because lane bully bullies and nerf stun width so hard it won't hit a baron, because fuck you that's why. You don't need a stun anyway, lmao.

FHMarshy3 votes

http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

And Leblanc is right there with Syndra too..

Vistha Kai1 votes

That's a case of people struggling with adapting to nerfs to their freelo champ.

It's not tied to LB dealing 0 damage with her W or E to go in opposite direction for no apparent reason.

Mew Goes AD2 votes

Who are the 3 with lower winrates than her? If you are basing buffs on winrates, shouldn't they get some help first?

Abyssphere1 votes

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Who are the 3 with lower winrates than her? If you are basing buffs on winrates, shouldn't they get some help first?

The people with lower winrates are Kassadin, Elise and LeBlanc. Elise currently has buffs being worked on, Kassadin is still seeing moderate competitive play and people hate him so it's difficult to convince Riot to buff him, and LeBlanc only just hit that winrate, and could be buffed up soon.

Kassadin could probably do with some slight buffs, LeBlanc probably won't go long without help and Elise is getting help right now. After that comes Syndra, who unlike LeBlanc has been terrible for a long time and unlike Kassadin isn't seeing competitive play/extremely difficult to balance.

Syndra's not the worst champ in the game but she's the worst champ that I can ask for buffs for.

Razorex2 votes

The only thing I ask from Riot is the bug fixes, and by god there are many bugs to be fixed. Gamebreaking buggs too, last game Ive experienced one where I couldn't press R and select my target. Maybe give her Q +10 damage or +50 range, since right now Syndra is in a high risk medium reward scenario. There are champions that outrange and outdamage you while being WAY more safe. As Syndra you have to dance 24-7 arround the rift to dodge everything that comes at you, land all your abilities other wise you're useless and you're squishy as hell once you get caught you're dead, like I said very high risk medium reward.

But for god's sake fix her countless bugs, I also can't believe that Riot has let her in this state for so long...

SwiftKitten882 votes

although i agree that she does and she needs a QOL buff

there cer other champs that are on that list that don't belong there who are OP and need nerfs.

Azir andRyze

so why i think your correct that she needs a buff, you can't only go by winrate

Abyssphere1 votes

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although i agree that she does and she needs a QOL buff

there cer other champs that are on that list that don't belong there who are OP and need nerfs.

Azir andRyze

so why i think your correct that she needs a buff, you can't only go by winrate

Yeah but there is other stuff supporting those champs being good. Azir for example is probably the single best mid laner in competitive play, and Riot themselves have said that they don't think Ryze needs to be weaker, they just need his abusive playstyle to go. Syndra, unlike Azir, hasn't had any success in competitive play to make up for her failures in solo q. And considering she's a textbook example of a high skillcap champion, that's a sign that something's wrong.

Vistha Kai2 votes

It's not about winrate or QoL changes, mate. It's about abilities being used in the opposite direction you cast them.

Last time I checked Azir or Ryze had no problems like that.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

They're reworking the Skillshot System they currently have, in exchange for something better, that will allow more unqiue designs for skill shots, while also, yes, fixing Syndra's bugs.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Except Dark Sphere is basically a reskinned minion and Scatter the Weak stun combo ISN'T a skillshot. It's like a Sion's Roar. It's a unit dash.

Rioter working on rewriting skillshots confirmed it.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Hm. I was reading a post on Surr20 about how it would also fix Syndra's bugs, or at least help towards fixing it. Enh.

Vistha Kai1 votes

The dude bothered to reply, because half of comments in the thread about Skillshots rewriting consisted of "Fix Syndra".

They were suppose to create a team to specifically look into Syndra's code, but that's been like 2 weeks ago and no word since.

RedTrinketGoneHa1 votes

Cause when Syndra works she is strong as fk and extremely boring to play against. The only one that could vs her is assassins and they all got nerfed... Well maybe Kassadin could still beat her but still.

Abyssphere2 votes

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Cause when Syndra works she is strong as fk and extremely boring to play against. The only one that could vs her is assassins and they all got nerfed... Well maybe Kassadin could still beat her but still.

Last time Syndra was strong she had a banrate around 5-7%. Regardless of your personal thoughts on her, she's not a champion that causes problems the second she's viable.

Her laning may have been oppressive but they destroyed that with the Q nerf. They can give her power in other areas aside from lane bullying.

A Bad Janna1 votes

fix her bugs & i'll stop maining LeBlanc (◡‿◡✿)

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