buff illaoi

Big Lincoln·Feb 16, 2017·3 votes·1,151 views

very weak champion definitely in need of some improvements

i have no bias

19 Comments

AthenasVendettaFeb 16, 20171 votes

No, this is a very bad idea.

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

a very good idea she is quite a fair champion, and definitely in need of help

I think the fairest buff would be to remove tentacles being targetable outside of bushes, to even out lopsided ranged matchups

MissingKayoFeb 16, 20171 votes

I'd personally prefer them invisible, but visible and non-targetable without walking into the bush would be nice too.

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

I would too, at least until they start swinging but I think it's more reasonable to have them be visible

cough gp cough

MissingKayoFeb 16, 20171 votes

Yeah. Invisible until first swing, and then just non-targetable.

NahuiFeb 16, 20171 votes

pls no

HawckeyFeb 16, 20171 votes

I've been playing her and she feels balanced enough imo, I don't want her to become banned every fkin game just because she doesn't feel overly strong rn

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

ive had a lot of higher elo friends telling me to not play Illaoi at all in ranked

i d k what to believe anymore desu

HawckeyFeb 17, 20171 votes

I play the game for fun, yea her win rate isn't so hot right now but she still feels pretty strong. She can definitely stomp in lower elo but yea once people learn to play against her it's a rough time for you. So it's not the champ itself, it's just that it's easy to counter her if you're not rtarded and there's no buff that can fix that without making her completely OP in lower elo

DarianEXFeb 16, 20171 votes

:T Play who u wanna play. It doesnt matter what people tell you. I play riven/fiora/camille/irelia mid xD

AthenasVendettaFeb 16, 20171 votes

Her arch type is designed that way. She is designed as a "Hey, come fight me punk!" She can already take over top lane given the right player.

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

more like given the opponent misplays repeatedly

her lane is pretty weak until level 6 provided the enemy doesn't get hit by a lot of Es

AthenasVendettaFeb 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wLOmujU5,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-02-16T16:20:44.107+0000)

more like given the opponent misplays repeatedly

her lane is pretty weak until level 6 provided the enemy doesn't get hit by a lot of Es

Having main both darius and Illaoi for while... I strongly disagree... Provided the one playing illaoi isn't stupid enough to go into extended trades early and work around her passive she will control the lane. And that is what she is. Before the "nerf" regarding the seeing of tentacles in the bushes was done because its easy to set three there and then bait a jungler and laner into it and destroy both of them. Granting vision now grants some counter play and trades in lane that can be more easily won by the enemy.

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

still has the most counterplay of any nest champion, nobody else has their traps or spawns on such huge delays

statistically she's been underperforming for a while, as far as gameplay goes she's far too easy to shut down if you have range, shouldn't be allowed to hit them outside of a bush if you aren't in the bush or it isn't warded

AthenasVendettaFeb 16, 20171 votes

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still has the most counterplay of any nest champion, nobody else has their traps or spawns on such huge delays

statistically she's been underperforming for a while, as far as gameplay goes she's far too easy to shut down if you have range, shouldn't be allowed to hit them outside of a bush if you aren't in the bush or it isn't warded

Not really... I mean She has the MOST interaction with her passive than anyone else. Not to mention the control and trades that are dictated by that. Most traps that you fight around have to be revealed and have a limited proc damage and reset time.... Illaoi's (if you want to call it a trap) has a two second one.... and depending on how you control the area you can have three or four tentacles slamming the ground.

Statistically only help so far... Illaoi isn't in favor due to the current meta.

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

nest champions, not traps. so like heimer and zyra, heimer is impossible for a lot of melees to fight and zyra is zyra

I consider Illaoi a LOT more fair and interactive than both of them

AthenasVendettaFeb 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wLOmujU5,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-16T17:26:19.903+0000)

nest champions, not traps. so like heimer and zyra, heimer is impossible for a lot of melees to fight and zyra is zyra

I consider Illaoi a LOT more fair and interactive than both of them

That is part of the draft phase... And the melees can still play fairly safe and eventually solo kill him regardless. That being said.... she is in a perfect spot. Yes, the meta currently does not support her due to the massive amount of cc and slows carried into an average game. Have we seen her in pro play? Yes, the draft allowing.

Your opinion is noted. But I am certain that riot will not change anything in her unless the newer tank items later this year break her.

Big LincolnFeb 16, 20171 votes

give me tips in fighting range then cos that's the only time I lose hard in lane w/ her

AthenasVendettaFeb 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wLOmujU5,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-16T18:22:03.680+0000)

give me tips in fighting range then cos that's the only time I lose hard in lane w/ her

What is your strategy in the game?

What do you typically build her into?

Ie; what do you do... What would make others play her differently?