Look at all this GHOSTINESS

Big Lincoln·Oct 15, 2015·241 votes·12,435 views

http://pre00.deviantart.net/7b64/th/pre/i/2013/021/8/b/mordekaiser_by_michalivan-d5s9q6h.jpg

I can really see the appeal to Mordekaiser. His mastery of ~~metal~~ spooky ghost hokum and deadly ~~shrapnel~~ blue mist flying out at people. Not to mention his giant ~~metal~~ ghost mace and ~~the suit of armor his soul is confined to~~ his ghost armor that covers up the spooky skellington inside, but don't tell China about the skellington

You're right, Riot; Mordekaiser really makes no sense being a metal mage.

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Malicious MetalOct 15, 201594 votes

I can't get it into my head as of why Morde has to get whitewashed and homogenized like the rest of the shadow isles champs. Yes, cohesion is great but it should never inhibit a character from really flourishing and living up to their vision.

Morde is not green. not blue! He's a mix of cold metal hues of blue, grey and red, symbolizing his dominion over pain and metal and not swirly ghost farts. He yells a powerful curse and your body succumbs to the sheer power of his will as you feel metal shrapnel shred your very essence as your will is beaten into submission by his overpowering force of mind.

Damn, the more I think of it the more I feel like Morde's the BIGGEST WASTED OPPORTUNITY. He's got so much goddamn POTENTIAL to be great, unique, interesting, iconic but nooooo we can't have that, all have to be grim dark caricatures...

Raid Boss MordeOct 15, 20155 votes

The "hue" pun... clever... always surprising us with them.

Big LincolnOct 15, 201554 votes

"hey goys riot grames here

we had an opportunity to really push the cool parts of Mordekaiser's fantasy as this metal monstrosity using metal and lightning like a proper homage to metal, but we decided to remove all of that and make him a lich in armor instead because that appeals to the edgy kids

gg have fun guys"

it's a shame that his VU is probably going to be a ghost wearing parts of armor. Probably Hecarim without the horse legs or some shit

honestly, i'm ashamed that riot refuses to admit that they fucked up. That they can actually tell us this is for the best and that we've still seen nobody admitting CertainlyT's rework is one of the worst things they've ever done (a very small number of people enjoy him, and a very large number of people now despise Mordekaiser)

NilokOct 15, 20152 votes

If that is the visual update, they are going to be forced to redo months of work because the community is already rioting against the title change.

Blue Moon WolfOct 16, 20158 votes

Rioting... against Riot.... my god the Irony is real XD

Ariel the CruelOct 16, 20157 votes

Eh, they're used to it.

TTUPhoenixOct 15, 201519 votes

I always felt that Morde's differences from the other Shadow Isles champs was intentional. He's from there, yes, but he's not one of them. He predates the Shadow Isles, he's an older form of undead - it makes sense that he doesn't follow the same rules or look the same as them. While he might fight for them, he pursues his own goals and objectives. He's supposed to be the odd man out - because he's not entirely one of them, and they know it and he knows it.

Big LincolnOct 15, 201523 votes

I always thought that he predated them because he was the first -- or one of the first -- to separate life from death. When he either met a probably well-deserved fate for his reign of cruelty or decided that he would skip death, he tethered himself to his armor to become immortal - and constantly in agony. Through sheer will he steels through it, taking delight in the eternity he has to inflict pain upon all.

He got retconned into being an SI champion, though. Makes no sense, IMO; he doesn't really have any business associating with them unless he turns out to be a huge part of the Isles' creation. Even then, he is infinitely more interesting using the construct of his prison as an extension of his malice to inflict real suffering, than just generic evil magic like the ghouls who are beneath him.

SharjoOct 15, 20154 votes

He got retconned into being an SI champion, though. Makes no sense, IMO; he doesn't really have any business associating with them unless he turns out to be a huge part of the Isles' creation. Even then, he is infinitely more interesting using the construct of his prison as an extension of his malice to inflict real suffering, than just generic evil magic like the ghouls who are beneath him.

Well just wait until the 28th or a bit later, because that's when Morde's long form lore will arrive and we'll learn more about Lord Numero Uno and just what he was like in life and what the sod he does in the context of the Shadow Isles.

KING OF MASKSOct 15, 20158 votes

Hey man... Karthus is pretty cool... why you gotta call him homogenized and whitewashed? item 3070

Malicious MetalOct 15, 201513 votes

Didn't mean it like that, my bad.

Morde has an identity and they have to make it fit into the Shadow Isle core theme. With what is currently happening Morde feels like a cardboard cutout of his former self...

KING OF MASKSOct 15, 20154 votes

I gotcha. Whenever a rework turns out to be garbage it always feels like a caricature of the character you loved.

JRobin31Oct 15, 20152 votes

For some reason, whenever I see RIOT decide to rework a champion the first thing that crosses my mind is that they think they messed up the champion from the beginning. I'm not saying that that's the case here or not and not saying the rework is garbage or not. It's just my opinion that a rework is akin to saying, "we have decided that we actually don't want this champion in the game, so we are going to replace him with something else". I realize there is lore and identity associated to these champions that presumably gets preserved through reworks, but I don't really pay much attention to that stuff as I'm much more interested in a champion's actual game play. I think it's hard on players who become emotionally attached to a champion before its rework. This doesn't mean reworks are a bad thing or good thing, but it does mean reworks almost always create strong feelings of nostalgia that strongly bias player perception and probably the same thing applies when a champion's lore is altered.

Big LincolnOct 15, 20154 votes

i think he means to say that Mord is forced to start stepping on their toes

Yes, he was the OG at being a soul-stealing badass, but that turf now belongs to people like Karthus and Thresh, and now Mord is being pushed to share that territory instead of having what people like him enhanced.

sure, we could keep his soul-stealing powers but I feel like, ultimately, that should come second to delivering on a more unique fantasy of being an iron-clad symbol of malice.

Ooh, that'd make a good name for Mordekaiser -- The Malice of the Isles.

Count ZubatOct 15, 201530 votes

Nothing else needs to be added, the OP pointed out everything. I think we can start preparing for funeral, because Mordekaiser is right now lying on his deathbed, dying from a type of cancer called "Rito rework ftw".

SharjoOct 15, 201522 votes

IB4 he gets a new splash art with more spectral death and less metal manipulation.

Big LincolnOct 15, 201529 votes

might as well kill me

SharjoOct 15, 201519 votes

It's gonna happen, mark my words. It's totally gonna happen, and he'll have a bit of greenish smoke coming out of him and not so red glowing eyes.

Big LincolnOct 15, 201512 votes

no stop

I've cried enough

Malicious MetalOct 15, 20156 votes

Yes, stop! We're going to rust from all our tears!

Photos of GhostsOct 15, 20152 votes

He's gonna have loads of green exposed body.

Malicious MetalOct 15, 20156 votes

count me in...

Ulquiorra995Oct 15, 20154 votes

Unfortunately, judging by the current treatment of Mordekaiser 2 things will happen:

1.) When his VU hits he will be a generic spectre with a few bits of armour here and there. 2.) People who like him will complain and at most get the condescending bullshit of the "We are doing this because crappy excuse for a reason that no one with half brain would buy, too bad you don't like it - your champion isn't popular/flashy enough for your opinion to matter".

Laughing FishOct 15, 201517 votes

Upvoted for your name http://i.imgur.com/fcIWdSc.gif?Noredirect

Big LincolnOct 15, 201516 votes

upvoted for being the first person on boards to know who it is

Laughing FishOct 15, 201511 votes

I know dat feel. Very few people get that my name is from Batman: The Animated Series. http://38.media.tumblr.com/2528689041a7ee37589593b1788968a8/tumblr_mqz3fvmem01rrkahjo3_250.gif?NoRedirect

Big LincolnOct 15, 201510 votes

the old 90's-early 2000's batman shows were the best tbh

i miss them dearly

Laughing FishOct 15, 201511 votes

We really need another Batman series. It is time for Bruce Timm to return. https://38.media.tumblr.com/bd5e8ff13d2890a2c47aabf8fbc0ed7a/tumblr_inline_nazfxacnpG1s4uejz.gif

CupcakeTrapOct 15, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mcEb9js0,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-15T19:46:29.432+0000)

the old 90's-early 2000's batman shows were the best tbh

i miss them dearly

"Think of it, Batman. To never again walk on a summer's day, with the hot wind in your face, and a warm hand to hold. Oh, yes, I'd kill for that."

KatCraftOct 15, 201516 votes

Honestly if they really wanted to define Mordes theme more clearly I would rather they focused more on being a metal mage rather than a generic spooky ghost mage.

333lomOct 15, 20155 votes

I seriously don't understand why Riot is doing all this. First the Retcon that removed us as Summoners from the world, and deleted the IoW. Now, deletion of entire characters.

For CarthageOct 16, 20155 votes

Iron Man, Mace of Spades, Harvester of Sorrow, Siphon of Destruction, Child of the Grave...

NOPE! Nothing even remotely metal here!

http://i.imgur.com/pE49tFp.jpg

SulghunterOct 15, 20154 votes

Seriously, I'm starting to think that CertainlyT is the Matt Ward of League of Legends.

Destroying lore and replacing with bland and/or nonsensecal dish water? check. Changing or making new abilities that don't fit the character well, but is flat out op? Check. Not giving a damn about what everyone says, or what the general consenses is? Check. Somehow keeping his job? Check.

HorrowOct 15, 20154 votes

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http://pre00.deviantart.net/7b64/th/pre/i/2013/021/8/b/mordekaiser_by_michalivan-d5s9q6h.jpg

I can really see the appeal to Mordekaiser. His mastery of ~~metal~~ spooky ghost hokum and deadly ~~shrapnel~~ blue mist flying out at people. Not to mention his giant ~~metal~~ ghost mace and ~~the suit of armor his soul is confined to~~ his ghost armor that covers up the spooky skellington inside, but don't tell China about the skellington

You're right, Riot; Mordekaiser really makes no sense being a metal mage.

Just ignore his ult. You know, how he just suddenly gains control of another champion's soul or dragon's soul. That's very metal-mage like, amirite?

Big LincolnOct 15, 201518 votes

gee, a champion has multiple themes, we should remove that before they become too interesting

Yes, his one non-metal related ability totally deflates the argument of him being a metal-bender. You got me.

HorrowOct 15, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mcEb9js0,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2015-10-15T20:03:34.885+0000)

gee, a champion has multiple themes, we should remove that before they become too interesting

Yes, his one non-metal related ability totally deflates the argument of him being a metal-bender. You got me.

Well I mean, if you're gonna start naming his abilities...you should name them all. Or are you just trying to make your point look better in this giant circlejerk for Morde?

Big LincolnOct 15, 20158 votes

cool, a passive and 3 abilities that support him being a metal mage and has been pointed out as the direction most people want him to be pushed in, vs an ult that's never been easy to balance and could stand to be replaced with something better for both theme and gameplay. No, he's definitely not a metal mage.

Of course, Riot's new buzz phrase is thematic cohesion so we have to do things the hard way

CupcakeTrapOct 15, 201514 votes

[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mcEb9js0,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2015-10-15T20:03:34.885+0000)

gee, a champion has multiple themes, we should remove that before they become too interesting

Yes, his one non-metal related ability totally deflates the argument of him being a metal-bender. You got me.

Sure, he has abilities that involve necromantic magic. Of course death is part of his character. But the metal is what made him distinctive. He wasn't a lich, or a gravedigger, or a zombie. He was this "haunted suit of armor" character, who brought out the coldness and militarism of the necromancer-lord archetype. Like, I don't know, Sauron or the Naz'gul from LotR. The "malevolent force animating a suit of armor" type.

So I say stick with your guns. It's not about all or even many of his abilities necessarily being about metal. They can trivially change that. Rather, it's that being a spooky haunted suit of armor made him distinctive among all the other "I am master of the undead" Champions.

CasterGilgameshOct 15, 20152 votes

honestly i didnt understand why he was master of metal in the first place

SkelenthOct 15, 20154 votes

Because he could control metal. Like in his Q, small mazes got smashed out of the target to hit more enemies. In his W a cloud of metal shards flew around him. His E let little Mazes come out of the ground. And after all he was just a walking set of armor. Metal Armor, you know? The only non-metal related thing was his ultimate

Big LincolnOct 15, 20154 votes

who cares? it's fucking cool and the lore sucks anyway

i think the shadow isles needs more variety

MegamanEXE79Oct 15, 20155 votes

Instead of changing EVERYTHING to fit the ult, they could've probably just reskinned ult'ed victims to be controllable metal versions of themselves while looking like metal mario instead of looking like spirits.

And then get called out on turning the ghost into metal ridley...

Just a thought

junglerboy16Oct 15, 20154 votes

Inb4 they give him a VU and new splash so he isn't actually Morde anymore.

After they do that, they'll change his name to Phantom, the Lord of Death and nobody will be able to tell what happened to Mordekaiser.

Stars ShaperOct 16, 20154 votes

Using the Pentakill Morde avatar until Riot does something about it.

DragonSheaOct 15, 20153 votes

Morde is a guys that can control both Metal and Supernatural power. In fact since he is using his own health to damage enemies It's implied that he uses his own metal armor to harm others with his W.

CupcakeTrapOct 15, 20153 votes

Veigar My hat's off to you, sir or madam. Veigar And that's saying something, because I'm about 65% hat by volume.