no ridiculous dashing shit, no paragraph abilities, and he's the first diver we've ever gotten that actually looks fun to play. Very nice modernization of his old kit.
Glad that I was wrong about him; he looks like a champion I'll be playing a lot. Good job, Riot.
Venomar29 votesHe looks busted AF TBH.
Khadaver4 votesMeh
Venomar12 votesI'm watching some gameplay on him right meow. His map presence is pretty gross. Something can be busted for other reasons than 100-0ing people in half a second.
RocketRelm26 votes
We heard you liked Slingshot E.
So we gave it to 
, with no wind-up time.
Paroe63 votes
So we gave it to
On an ULT... That requires MOVEMENT SPEED to HAVE THAT RANGE. lol.
Fiddling Around2 votesOn only THE STRONGEST CC IN THE GAME.
As the LONGEST POINT AND CLICK w/o previous damage in the game as well? There should be no reason ww ult even with ridiculous amounts of movement speed should outrange cait ult...
macromite18 votessuppress isn't the strongest cc. that is a knockup. followed by suspension. followed by suppression.
OyddAWqJ5r3 votesEdit: Research it people. Literally downvoted me for quoting facts.
Suppression > Suspension
Suspension is literally just a Stun with the tacked on Airborne status for the purpose of synergy with Yasuo's ult. It's still reduced by Tenacity.
Also Suppression > Knockup
Knockup's can be Cleansed and QSS'd, Suppressions can only be QSS'd. Only problem is almost all Suppressions are channels, making them inherently weaker.
Keevalroy21 votesCertainlyT...is learning? He didn't make a champion with 300 passives and obnoxious mobility? He...gasp listened to feedback?? Maybe 2017 really is the year of hope.
Meep Man4 votesNah, his mobility is pretty insane. Doesn't seem OP though.
Keevalroy8 votesIt's not obnoxious like Yasuo, Kalista, or Lee though.
Fiddling Around1 votesNo; not obnoxious at all to have a tank with the best cc in the game outranging caitlyn ult and having a dash on a 6 second cd. Oh and lets conveniently forget how hes among the special few that gets to choose whether he uses to dash in front or behind.
WinTheWarOnPants3 voteshttp://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/01/110-pbe-update.html#more
Passives:
Mecha MaIphite20 votesHis AAs always did bonus magic damage and healed him. He's always sensed low hp champions (though not globally, it was a pretty big radius), and he's always run faster when he sensed them.
All that happened was that his kit was updated. His old kit was archaic; his new one is a little more complicated, but not overloaded. He's still simple and straightforward.
Fiddling Around1 votesI didn't realize he always had the capability of outranging caitlyn ult with his own ult. I suppose he's always had the strongest cc in the game on his ult which you chose to ignore; and I'm not quite sure he always had a yasuo dash in his natural kit as well that can be modified by holding the button down (YES THIS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.)
Blåbæret11 votes[{quoted}](name=Based Salamander,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Iso6YUrZ,comment-id=0006000100010000,timestamp=2017-01-11T02:09:38.249+0000)
I didn't realize he always had the capability of outranging caitlyn ult with his own ult. I suppose he's always had the strongest cc in the game on his ult which you chose to ignore; and I'm not quite sure he always had a yasuo dash in his natural kit as well that can be modified by holding the button down (YES THIS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.)
Poor Caitlyn with her 30% play rate. Poor, poor, poor ADCs, man.
Logan26052 votesPeople are complaining about his ult range. Its that passive that scares me. 10 healing per auto on the picture shown (probably scales with level), tripled when low health. So if you go warlords (which is viable), and then bort....
"Hi, you thought 
and 
had annoying sustain? Good luck."
WinTheWarOnPants2 votesmy biggest problem's are his new W and the life steal passive as well. His new ult is the best part of his kit IMO. looking at his numbers and the little bit of gameplay I've seen, is that he is going to be 1. inescapable and 2. unduelable.
you fight and as both of you lose hp he gets stronger to an insane degree. the number will probably change(cuase holy fuk they are too much) but at rank 5 W he gets #110%-330% attack speed and 55%-165% freaking MS.
this combined with Warlords, 
, and his passive auto healing sounds like absolute BS too me.
LordForrest3 votesYou are forgetting that his passive only heals based on the damage his passive does. And lifesteal is only based off of basic attack damage, which generally isn't built on warwick. So combined with the fact that he doesn't have large amounts of AD or penetration the lifesteal isn't going to be absurd. I am not saying that it might not be potentially strong, but it is counter-able. 
and its upgrade 
basically make it a minor nuisance, hell because of the specifics 
may even be effective because you can actually drop him to the required threshold for it to proc.
Glory ln Death3 votesThe movespeed bonus is only while out of combat. You can get away just fine during a duel.
invisiblecat112 votesNo ridiculous dashing?? Didn't his ult just jump all the way over dragon pit
Meep Man21 votesThink he means constant dashing. Not one big one.
WinTheWarOnPants6 votesJaws of the Beast (Q) 50/60/70/80/90 Mana 6 sec Cooldown Warwick lunges forward and bites his target. While the key is held down, he will lock on to the target then leap behind them.
that's 3.6 sec CD with 40% CDR. "no constant dashing" my ass...
LordForrest16 votesA dash that requires a target. That is not constant dashing, since in most case you are dashing in and you can't dash out. It is really straightforward. Hell because of the lock on capability it is more of an anti-escape dash for the people who can actually dash wherever they want
WinTheWarOnPants15 votesok babe thanks for the clarification. good to know that 
don't "constantly" dash. All this time i thought it didn't make a shit whether dashes were targeted or not to be "constantly" dashing. I really owe you for letting me know how retarded i was.
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
SmileInABox14 votesThey also almost all have resets ya dip. Weedwick doesn't.
LordForrest6 votesThere is a difference between a 3.6 CD with 40% cdr and a charge system with resets on kills (), a reset tied to a debuff from Q(), a ridiculous CD reduction on dagger pickup and a cooldown reduction passive (), cd reset on kills (), and a super low cooldown dash with a fairly long target lockout (). I am not really going to count lee since Safeguard is on a 14 cd (8.4 with 40%) and his Q requires you to land the first part on an enemy to use the dash.
All of those requires specific situations to constantly dash and they still have limitations.
If you land Q can only dash rapidly twice, if you wait for Q and land it you can continue to dash until you mess up or you double tap. You still need to wait on Q. Max rank its a 6 sec CD (3.6 with 40%)
Needs to kill the target with her Q for the reset.
Honestly requires good setup and positioning to be able to pull of the crazy dash game play. Seeing as she needs Dagger for the CD reduction and she only produces 2 on a single rotation, so that 3 dashes on a rotation. If she manages to kill or get an assist within 3 seconds she will reduce all her cooldowns by 15 seconds allowing another rotation. You also have to keep in mind that the Dagger reduction is dependent on picking them up so if they are in a bad spot they don't help.
Yes, if there is a large enough minion wave he can dash like crazy, but then he is locked out of dashing to those targets for 6 seconds at max rank. So he has a short period of crazy movement around an area and then he is locked out for a time.
She has at most 3 charges available. She only gains more over time (15 sec recharge at max rank) or upon an enemy champion takedown. So unless a champion she damaged dies, she has 3 dashes. Well that and the blink on her smokescreen.
Also yes, my first response was not worded right. I was more referring to the fact that he requires a target to dash to. So he will not be constantly dashing because he needs a target and a good reason to dash to that target.
Big Lincoln4 votesCDR isn't really on any items he likes anyway, beyond visage, since frozen heart's quite mediocre at the moment
dash on his Q is pretty sketchy though
WinTheWarOnPants2 votes
are all gonna be valid options on him. I honestly think that is gonna be amazing on him now with his low AF cd Q and his new E being able to proc sheen. i would think his new build will look something like or 
Big Lincoln7 votesall his abilities do magic damage, i doubt cleaver will be worthwhile, same with DD
SithesisLord1 votesMagic damage scalling with AD.
Big Lincoln9 voteswhat's cleaver going to do for him when it requires physical damage to work and armor shred doesn't do anything for magic damage
what's dd gonna do when it only heals off physical damage
GrReaper962 votesThe dash scales with MS. He could only jump that far thanks to ghost
Paroe4 votesThe dash scales with MS. He could only jump that far thanks to ghost
ghost AND a probably maxed W.
EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votesyou max that first but yeah. he blew a summoner for it. its still ridiculous, but I think its kinda cool you can do that if youre willing to use ghost for it. and you do give up flash for it, which is normally how people extend their range, and is a lot better for getting out of bad situations.
Cosmic Warper6 votes[{quoted}](name=Monado II,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Iso6YUrZ,comment-id=0009000100000001,timestamp=2017-01-11T03:30:52.714+0000)
you max that first but yeah. he blew a summoner for it. its still ridiculous, but I think its kinda cool you can do that if youre willing to use ghost for it. and you do give up flash for it, which is normally how people extend their range, and is a lot better for getting out of bad situations.
No you don't max that first. You max q first...
Chamuel8511 votesI'm unsure about them turning his ult into a skill shot myself. Another way to fail at it beyond them stopping your suppression itself. I thought that was the appeal of suppresion. Very reliable but potentially easy to stop with help. Now WW can straight up miss. Undecided.
venomous frost6 votesbut he can't be cancelled, so you win some you lose some
Chamuel8510 votesHe's only unstoppable during the jump. I think once he lands, he can be stunned again. We'll see. I'm sure going to miss the ability to get the back line reliably with it. Not that he doesn't have dashes, and incredible other tool kit increases to make up for it. It looks hella good though. I'll want to play around with it for sure.
Surr20plz5 votes[{quoted}](name=venomous frost,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Iso6YUrZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-01-10T20:34:39.885+0000)
but he can't be cancelled, so you win some you lose some
No, you fail at reading comprehension.
The LEAP can't be cancelled.
The suppression remains the same.
AcidTheWarlock24 votesIt has some pretty great range due to the range increase based on MS.
I'll bet it has a missing HP ratio kek
Leetri4 votesIt doesn't. "Warwick leaps 2.5 seconds worth of movement speed in a direction, suppressing the first champion he collides with for 1.5 seconds. Deals 175/350/525 (+ 167.5 bonus AD) magic damage and applies on-hit effects 3 times. Warwick heals for 100% of all damage he deals during Infinite Duress."
Azteryz5 votesit makes it a lot healthier while also giving it levers to buff or nerf if needed
plus they made it more diverse all around
he can miss it
opposing team can body block for it
he can use it as an escape
Venomar2 votesIt might as well not be a skill shot with how fast the "projectile" speed is on it. He FLIES at people, he doesnt "bloop" in like Zac.
AcidTheWarlock8 votesIf you watch the gameplay stream on Twitch the chat was going insane over the amount of ults they missed lol
Meta Phyton5 votesOhhh it's a skill shot, so it can miss. Hahaha that is going to be hilarious to watch. Like something out of the funnies. Lmao I can just imagine it now, that bloodthirsty roar and ROARRRR - zinged it! Lmao hahahahahaha
